Re: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ
I've confirmed it on Sprint and Verizon Androids, and confirmed it doesn't exist on T-Mobile. -- Art Alexion - Reply message - From: Jesse Tie-Ten-Quee hig...@highos.com To: A list for BES Adminapos;s to discuss issues, etc. bes-admins@dataoutages.com Subject: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 6:07 pm Hi, On 1 December 2011 17:21, Art Alexion a...@rhd.orgmailto:a...@rhd.org wrote: Sorry for cross-posting, but the issue affects Androids and is reputed to affect BlackBerries. I have confirmed it on Sprint and ATT, and have confirmed that it doesn't affect T-Mobile. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video/ Can anyone confirm whether or not BlackBerries are affected? http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/Java-Development/Does-CarrierIQ-run-on-BlackBerry-devices/m-p/1421009 'Research In Motion does not install, nor authorize, its carrier partners to install Carrier IQ monitoring software on its BlackBerry smartphones' http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/mobile-technology/no-carrier-iq-tracking-software-on-blackberry-rim-says/article2256820/ Bell, Telus, and Rogers in Canada have all confirmed that they do not use, install, or deploy CIQ on ANY of their devices or networks. http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602313/google-nexus-android-phones-and-original-xoom-tablet-do-not-include The official Google Nexus/Motorola Xoom firmware/software does not use nor come pre-installed with the software. I could link to many more news postings or forums posting where this was discussed in detail today. I believe VZW has stated that they do not use CIQ either. This software for all intents and purposes is only put on devices where the carrier has modified the software or requested the manufacturer to modify it for them. This isn't to say that CarrierIQ didn't make an application for BlackBerry. The site is down right now, but it was up earlier in the day: http://ota.carrieriq.com/rim A quick and dirty look at it: http://forums.crackberry.com/general-discussion-f2/carrier-iq-spyware-blackberrys-too-674331/index3.html#post6898345 So even if it is installed on a BlackBerry, it's really easy to see by going into your Application Management on the device and looking for anything named IQAgent or taking a look at the installed modules on a BES. But this seems VERY carrier specific at the moment and was blown way out of proportion especially considering this has been news for several weeks now in the Android world. Trevor Eckhart had said that it affects BlackBerry but never backed it up and every single news site, blog, and media ran with it, self-referencing each other to oblivion without actually doing any fact checking. I still haven't heard of anyone actually finding this software installed on their device, although I admit I haven't been keeping up with the news in the past few hours as I did actually have to get work done in the afternoon once I realized this doesn't affect me or our corporate BES Carrier. It's also debated the application even transmits information unless the device is put into debugging mode on either Android or iOS. Not to say that it couldn't or hasn't. -- Jesse Tie-Ten-Quee ( highos at highos dot com ) ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
Re: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ
Correction, I confirmed it on Sprint and ATT. Didn't look at a Verizon. Confirmed NOT to be on T-Mobile. On 12/2/11 6:02 AM, Art Alexion a...@rhd.org wrote: I've confirmed it on Sprint and Verizon Androids, and confirmed it doesn't exist on T-Mobile. -- Art Alexion - Reply message - From: Jesse Tie-Ten-Quee hig...@highos.com To: A list for BES Adminapos;s to discuss issues, etc. bes-admins@dataoutages.com Subject: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 6:07 pm Hi, On 1 December 2011 17:21, Art Alexion a...@rhd.orgmailto:a...@rhd.org wrote: Sorry for cross-posting, but the issue affects Androids and is reputed to affect BlackBerries. I have confirmed it on Sprint and ATT, and have confirmed that it doesn't affect T-Mobile. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video/ Can anyone confirm whether or not BlackBerries are affected? http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/Java-Development/Does-CarrierIQ-run -on-BlackBerry-devices/m-p/1421009 'Research In Motion does not install, nor authorize, its carrier partners to install Carrier IQ monitoring software on its BlackBerry smartphones' http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/mobile-technology/no-carrie r-iq-tracking-software-on-blackberry-rim-says/article2256820/ Bell, Telus, and Rogers in Canada have all confirmed that they do not use, install, or deploy CIQ on ANY of their devices or networks. http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602313/google-nexus-android-phones-and- original-xoom-tablet-do-not-include The official Google Nexus/Motorola Xoom firmware/software does not use nor come pre-installed with the software. I could link to many more news postings or forums posting where this was discussed in detail today. I believe VZW has stated that they do not use CIQ either. This software for all intents and purposes is only put on devices where the carrier has modified the software or requested the manufacturer to modify it for them. This isn't to say that CarrierIQ didn't make an application for BlackBerry. The site is down right now, but it was up earlier in the day: http://ota.carrieriq.com/rim A quick and dirty look at it: http://forums.crackberry.com/general-discussion-f2/carrier-iq-spyware-blac kberrys-too-674331/index3.html#post6898345 So even if it is installed on a BlackBerry, it's really easy to see by going into your Application Management on the device and looking for anything named IQAgent or taking a look at the installed modules on a BES. But this seems VERY carrier specific at the moment and was blown way out of proportion especially considering this has been news for several weeks now in the Android world. Trevor Eckhart had said that it affects BlackBerry but never backed it up and every single news site, blog, and media ran with it, self-referencing each other to oblivion without actually doing any fact checking. I still haven't heard of anyone actually finding this software installed on their device, although I admit I haven't been keeping up with the news in the past few hours as I did actually have to get work done in the afternoon once I realized this doesn't affect me or our corporate BES Carrier. It's also debated the application even transmits information unless the device is put into debugging mode on either Android or iOS. Not to say that it couldn't or hasn't. -- Jesse Tie-Ten-Quee ( highos at highos dot com ) ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer -- Infrastructure Engineering Group Resources for Human Development ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
Re: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ
The quote on both sites (Gizmodo just quotes the Computerworld site) is limited to T-Mobile does not use this diagnostic tool to obtain the content of text, email or voice messages, or the specific destinations of a customers' internet activity, nor is the tool used for marketing purposes. I looked at three T-Mobile devices, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S 4G, and HTC Flyer. All rooted. I did not find the files indicated to be associated with the software that I found on the Sprint and ATT phones. I also ran the Logging TrackerApp on the T-Mobile phones and it didn't find CiQ either. That's the best evidence I can offer. On 12/2/11 10:59 AM, Darhl Thomason darhl.thoma...@papamurphys.com wrote: I read on Gizmodo.com that T-Mo admitted to using Carrier IQ http://gizmodo.com/586/att-sprint-and-t+mobile-all-fess-up-to-using-ca rrier-iq and on computerworld.com http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/print/9222319/AT_T_Sprint_confirm_u se_of_Carrier_IQ_software_on_handsets -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer -- Infrastructure Engineering Group Resources for Human Development ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
Re: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ
On 12/2/11 11:18 AM, Darhl Thomason darhl.thoma...@papamurphys.com wrote: The way I read it, T-Mo says 'we don't use it for those purposes' that tells me they do use it for 'other' purposes. And that while you have done some deep searching on it and didn't find evidence of it, someone else may. I agree. -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer -- Infrastructure Engineering Group Resources for Human Development ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
Re: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ
From what I can read it does not. http://crackberry.com/research-motion-responds-we-don%E2%80%99t-put-carrieriq-blackberry-smartphones-carriers-shouldn%E2%80%99t-either -Original Message- From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Art Alexion Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:21 PM To: BES List; android-chat Subject: [Bes-admins] CarrierIQ Sorry for cross-posting, but the issue affects Androids and is reputed to affect BlackBerries. I have confirmed it on Sprint and ATT, and have confirmed that it doesn't affect T-Mobile. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video/ Can anyone confirm whether or not BlackBerries are affected? I'd recommend rooting any Sprint, Verizon or ATT Android and taking it off. -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer -- Infrastructure Engineering Group Resources for Human Development [cid:FD0BEA7C-1081-47AF-91A8-8D4F8190E933] ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - Bes-Admins mailing list is sponsored by Dataoutagenews.com. http://www.dataoutagenews.com
