Re: [bess] Question on split horizon label for EVPN VPWS Multi homing

2019-05-13 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi, Remember that the same ES can be shared by Eline, ELAN, Etree and other EVPN services, in which you still need the ESI label. So I would follow RFC7432 for this. On reception a PE should ignore the ESI label value if only EVPN VPWS services are running. As a side note, this document is

Re: [bess] Question on ARP probe in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding

2019-05-03 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Friday, May 3, 2019 at 11:47 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] Question on ARP probe in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding Please see inline.. On Fri, May 3, 2019

Re: [bess] Question on ARP probe in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding

2019-05-03 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
to, there is only a MAC in the route that the source NVE receives. So you cannot guarantee the source NVE will receive an RT for the IP-VRF. Thx Jorge From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Friday, May 3, 2019 at 7:39 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-flags-03.txt

2019-04-30 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
the reference. Thank you! Jorge -Original Message- From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" Date: Friday, April 26, 2019 at 3:11 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-f

Re: [bess] An use-case that RFC 8584 (EVPN DF Framework)  works not so well and its solution .

2019-04-30 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
capability along with the Preference based Alg in the DF preference draft. * Or the handshake Alg in the fast df recovery draft Thanks. Jorge From: "wang.yub...@zte.com.cn" Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 5:02 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Cc: "Rabadan, Jorge

Re: [bess] Question on ARP probe in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding

2019-04-30 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Muthu, The source NVE identifies the MAC-VRF/BD out of the RT/eth-tag. The assumption is that the BD is only attached to one IP-VRF, hence you know what ARP table to look up. My two cents. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 4:39 AM To:

Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-flags-03.txt

2019-04-25 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
All, We did a minor update to this draft - we added a new flag (I) that is indicating that the IP->MAC binding in a MAC/IP route is immutable, i.e., the advertised IP can only be bound to the advertised MAC when programming it in the ARP/ND cache. Please let us know if you have any comments.

Re: [bess] [BESS] Discussions about DF-election FSM.

2019-04-13 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
te: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 5:19 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , "saja...@cisco.com" , "jdr...@juniper.net" Subject: [BESS] Discussions about DF-election FSM. Hi Jorge, I read the draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-e

Re: [bess] [ALU] Some questions about PBB EVPN (RFC7623)

2019-04-12 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
: "wang.yub...@zte.com.cn" Date: Friday, April 12, 2019 at 3:22 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] [ALU] Some questions about PBB EVPN (RFC7623) Hi Jorge, Thank you very much for your help. I am still n

Re: [bess] [ALU] Some questions about PBB EVPN (RFC7623)

2019-04-11 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Bob, Please see in-line with [JORGE]. Hope it helps. Thx Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "wang.yub...@zte.com.cn" Date: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 12:04 PM To: "bess@ietf.org" , "saja...@cisco.com" , "ais...@juniper.net" , "Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" Subject: [ALU] [bess]

Re: [bess] DF election rule in EVPN MH, for untagged interface - reg

2019-04-08 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi, I think the definition of Ethernet Tag in the framework draft should be clear enough. There are implementations using configured IDs. Jorge From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 2:54 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: Jaikumar So

Re: [bess] DF election rule in EVPN MH, for untagged interface - reg

2019-04-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Date: Friday, April 5, 2019 at 5:10 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: Jaikumar Somasundaram , "bess@ietf.org" , P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: Re: [bess] DF election rule in EVPN MH, for untagged interface - reg Thanks, Jorge. It is clear that th

Re: [bess] DF election rule in EVPN MH, for untagged interface - reg

2019-04-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi, I think you should check out https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-09 This draft updates RFC7432 in certain aspects of the DF Election, and it is already at the RFC editor. Check out the use of Ethernet Tag in the document. o Ethernet Tag - used to

Re: [bess] BDF Election in EVPN VPWS Single-Active Multihoming

2019-03-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Mozhi Perumal Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 10:41 To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] BDF Election in EVPN VPWS Single-Active Multihoming Hi Jorge, I didn't mean using different algorithms for electing the DF and BFD. I am just asking which algorithm

Re: [bess] BDF Election in EVPN VPWS Single-Active Multihoming

2019-03-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
The implementations I know use the same DF Alg for DF election _and_ backup DF Election. And I don’t see why you would use something different? In other words, if you use e.g., Pref based DF Alg, use it for DF and BDF elections. Only that the BDF election excludes the DF from the candidate list.

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-04

2019-03-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support as co-author. Not aware of any relevant IPR. Thank you. Jorge From: "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 9:43 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" , "draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil...@ietf.org" Cc: "bess-cha...@ietf.org" Subject: WG adoption and IPR poll

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-rabadan-sajassi-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking-02

2019-02-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
As co-author, I support this document for adoption. Not aware of any relevant IPR. Thank you. Jorge From: "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Monday, February 18, 2019 at 4:53 PM To: "draft-rabadan-sajassi-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interwork...@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: "bess-cha...@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] A question on using EVPN label and Alias label in load balancing

2019-02-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Subject: Re: [bess] A question on using EVPN label and Alias label in load balancing Believe Jaikumar's question is, whether it is allowed per RFC 7432 to send known unicast traffic to a non-DF PE (for load balancing in all active m

Re: [bess] A question on using EVPN label and Alias label in load balancing

2019-02-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
It “sounds” to me that Jaikumar’s question might be related to comparing MPLS-based vs MAC-based forwarding models. RFC8388 may help, sections 6-8. My 2 cents. Thx Jorge From: BESS on behalf of Jide Akintola Date: Monday, February 18, 2019 at 1:23 PM To: "bess@ietf.org" , Jaikumar

Re: [bess] About draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

2019-02-06 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
: "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" Date: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 at 12:41 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-pr...@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] Abou

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-01-25 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
: Benjamin Kaduk Date: Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 9:06 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" , The IESG , "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , Stephane Litkowski , "bess-cha...@ietf.org" ,

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-01-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
, January 19, 2019 at 2:13 AM To: "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Cc: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , The IESG , "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , Stephane Litkowski , "bess-cha...@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject

Re: [bess] (Action required from Author)Re: Time to gather WG document status update

2019-01-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Mankamana, Matthew, Stephane, Update about two drafts: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-flags * This is a very simple draft defining an extended community to propagate the IPv6 ND information along with MAC/IP routes in EVPN. * It is used (and referred) in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd,

Re: [bess] Poll to progress draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates without implementation

2019-01-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear chairs and WG, I strongly believe we should progress draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates for the following reasons: * The draft defines a number of fundamental routes that are critical for the deployment of multicast technologies in EVPN, especially the S-PMSI A-D and Leaf-AD

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-01-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
FYI We just posted revision 08 which addresses all the comments given during the review (thank you all for that). From the authors perspective, the document is ready to go. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Date: Thursday,

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-01-17 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Benjamin, Thank you very much for your review. Satya and I have looked at your points one by one, please see in-line. Let us know if you are ok now. We'll publish revision 08 soon. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Benjamin Kaduk Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 6:52 PM To: The

Re: [bess] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-17 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Alvaro, Thank you very much. Please see in-line. Thx Jorge From: Alvaro Retana Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:49 PM To: The IESG , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , "bess-cha...@ie

Re: [bess] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
ment, so I think we should be ok since we are also referring to the security considerations in RFC7432. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: "Luc Andre Burdet (lburdet)" Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 5:29 PM To: "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" , "Rabadan, Jor

Re: [bess] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Alvaro, Thank you very much for reviewing. Please see in-line to see the resolution of your comments, with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Alvaro Retana Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 9:51 PM To: The IESG Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" ,

Re: [bess] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Alexey, Thanks for reviewing. The next revision will have those two nits fixed. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Alexey Melnikov Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 7:29 PM To: The IESG Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , Stephane Litkowski ,

Re: [bess] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Mirja, Thank you very much for reviewing. Please see in-line with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Mirja Kühlewind Date: Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 12:16 PM To: The IESG Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , Stephane Litkowski ,

Re: [bess] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Alissa, Thank you very much for reviewing. You raise very good points about the "update" topic. As discussed, in the rev 08 we will change the document to update 7432, explaining why in the abstract and introduction. About changing the introduction structure, we thought about it but still

Re: [bess] Suresh Krishnan's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Suresh, Thank you very much for reviewing. Please see in-line with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Suresh Krishnan Date: Thursday, January 10, 2019 at 7:27 AM To: The IESG Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framew...@ietf.org" , Stephane Litkowski ,

Re: [bess] Deborah Brungard's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07: (with COMMENT)

2019-01-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Deborah, Thank you for reviewing. We agreed on "updating 7432" in this document. We'll publish revision 08 soon after we resolve all the comments and discuss suggestions. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Deborah Brungard Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 10:18 PM To: The IESG Cc:

Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df-03.txt

2018-12-21 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
FYI New revision of this draft has been published. Minor changes, mainly to align the draft with the recently published draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-07. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: BESS on behalf of "internet-dra...@ietf.org" Reply-To: "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] A question about RFC 8317

2018-12-20 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Agreed Luc, and as explained in RFC8317 (section 3.1). Thx Jorge From: "Luc Andre Burdet (lburdet)" Date: Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 6:43 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , Alexander Vainshtein , "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" Cc: "John E D

Re: [bess] A question about RFC 8317

2018-12-20 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
t;Ali Sajassi (saja...@cisco.com)" Cc: "Samer Salam (ssalam)" , "John E Drake (jdr...@juniper.net)" , "ju1...@att.com" , "sbout...@vmware.com" , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: A question about R

Re: [bess] Last Call: (Framework for EVPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility) to Proposed Standard

2018-12-19 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Neeraj, Thank you very much for reviewing. Besides John’s reply to your second comment, about the first comment, based on the feedback from the reviewers, we changed that sentence to: The effect of forwarding loops in a Layer-2 network is particularly severe because of the broadcast

Re: [bess] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-06

2018-12-19 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Francesca, Thank you very much for your review. Please see in-line how we are resolving your comments in the next revision (07, to be published asap). Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: BESS on behalf of Francesca Palombini Date: Friday, December 14, 2018 at 5:13 PM To:

Re: [bess] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-06

2018-12-19 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
To: "'Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)'" , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "rtg-...@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework@ietf.org" , "i...@ietf.org" , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Rtgdir last call review of draft-i

Re: [bess] Last Call: (Framework for EVPN Designated Forwarder Election Extensibility) to Proposed Standard

2018-12-19 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Anoop, Thank you for your review. We took all your comments. Please see in-line how we are resolving them in rev 07. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: BESS on behalf of "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Date: Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:09 PM To: Anoop Ghanwani , "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpls-seamless-integ-05

2018-12-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Linda, Thank you for reviewing. I think the document has to be Standards Track. Especially for the PEs that support both VPLS _and_ EVPN, the procedures described must be consistent in all the PEs that participate in the seamless integration, otherwise there could be loops or blackholes.

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-bum-procedure-updates

2018-12-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
As a co-author, I’m not aware of any relevant IPR related to this document. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:50 PM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for

Re: [bess] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-06

2018-12-14 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Adrian, Thank you very much for your thorough review. I incorporated most of your comments, please see the details in-line with [JORGE]. There is one outstanding comment that Satya and I will discuss. Thank you. Jorge -Original Message- From: "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" Date:

Re: [bess] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-06

2018-12-10 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Russ, Thank you very much for your review. We'll publish a new version once we make all the changes suggested by the different reviewers. Please see some comments in-line with [JORGE]. Thank you. Jorge -Original Message- From: Russ Housley Date: Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 3:29

Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment

2018-12-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
It’s an important document. I support its publication as coauthor. Not aware of any IPR. Nokia has an implementation for a while now. Thanks, Jorge From: BESS on behalf of stephane.litkow...@orange.com Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 14:43 To: bess@ietf.org

Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-06 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Donald, -Original Message- From: Donald Eastlake Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 6:59 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "bess@ietf.org" , "draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd.auth...@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Comments about draft-gmsm-

Re: [bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Donald, Thank you for this. For the second question, I get from your answer that you will keep both encapsulations for the time being? Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Donald Eastlake Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 8:48 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain

Re: [bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Patrice, Thank you. Please see more in-line with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: "Patrice Brissette (pbrisset)" Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 7:49 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" , "draft-

[bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-l2gw-proto-03

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear authors, Some comments about this draft: 1- the draft uses some 'non-standard' terminology. Could you use RFC7432 terminology please? An example of 'non-standard' term is EVLAG. 2- the draft proposes a solution for something that works today without the need of a multi-homed Ethernet

[bess] About draft-brissette-bess-evpn-mh-pa-02

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi all, I think I already made similar comments when the first revision of the draft in the subject was presented, but since I see no changes in the last revision, please let me throw the comments to the list for discussion: 1) section 3 "Peering PEs MAY exchange only Ethernet-Segment route

[bess] Comments about draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-01

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Dear authors, I couldn’t make it to the BESS meeting, so my apologies if some of these things have been discussed. Some comments/questions: - In the last IETF, I suggested the use of BGP and the BGP-BFD attribute to exchange discriminators, as in section 3.1.6 of

Re: [bess] [Idr] Comparing using the SD-WAN Overlay SAFI specified by draft-dunbar-idr-bgp-sdwan-overlay-ext with the EVPN approach described by draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-00

2018-11-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Ali, About that granularity, I have a couple of questions about the table in page 17, and the corresponding sections. a) per PE granularity, EVPN case: wouldn't make sense to use an EVPN route? EVPN is the only AFI/SAFI deployed in many networks, so I would really use an EVPN route for this.

Re: [bess] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-04

2018-11-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Joe, My apologies for the delay. Thank you very much for the very useful review. We took all your comments and made the corresponding changes in the new version. Please see more in-line with [JORGE] along with your comments. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Joe Clarke Date:

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-aggregation-label-01

2018-10-31 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
I support this draft for WG adoption. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 9:22 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-aggregation-label-01 Hi WG, This email begins a

Re: [bess] Document shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir-04

2018-10-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Matthew, Thank you very much for reviewing the document. Version 05 has been posted addressing all your comments. Please see more in-line below. Thank you. Jorge From: "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" Date: Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 3:43 AM To: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized...@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-16 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
I agree John. Thanks, Jorge From: John E Drake Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 07:43 To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View); Zhuangshunwan; Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Cc: jiang...@ericsson.com; p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.com; jaikumar.somasunda

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-16 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
bits here too, but they may not be as useful as in RFC8214. Thanks, Jorge From: Zhuangshunwan Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 00:19 To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View); Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Cc: jiang...@ericsson.com; p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.com

Re: [bess] Encoding a 20 bit label in a 24 bit field.

2018-10-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
I personally agree that it is good to make this explicit (although many implementations already interpreted it this way). Thanks, Jorge -Original Message- From: BESS on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" Date: Monday, October 15, 2018 at 3:22 PM To: BESS Subject: [bess] Encoding a 20

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-05 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
That should be true only in RFC8214. That’s my point… From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Friday, October 5, 2018 at 5:47 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "jaikumar.somasunda...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jiang...@ericsson.com&q

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Anush, From: Anush Mohan Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:47 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "muthu.a...@gmail.com" , "jiang...@ericsson.com" , "p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jaikumar.

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Jai, Yes, but see my other email.. if you only have two PEs in the ES, you may optimize things. Thanks. Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:39 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Muthu, From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:37 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "jaikumar.somasunda...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jiang...@ericsson.com" , "p.muthu.arul.mo...@ericsson.co

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
regular BGP. Thx Jorge From: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 1:14 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: "jaikumar.somasunda...@ericsson.com" , "bess@ietf.org" , "jiang...@ericsson.com" , "p.muthu.arul.mo..

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Jai, The new DF becomes DF because it re-runs DF election. Thx Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 12:23 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He , P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN MH:

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
In-line. Thx Jorge From: Jaikumar Somasundaram Date: Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 11:28 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" , "bess@ietf.org" Cc: Jiang He , P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path F

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi, Questions: 1. Will the node in backup mode forward the packet to CE? [JORGE] as soon as it becomes DF it can forward packets to the CE. The backup node will have to run DF election upon the ES route withdrawal from the primary. If AC-DF is enabled, it can also react to the withdrawal

Re: [bess] All-Active Multi-homing and Virtual Ethernet Segments: A Question

2018-10-02 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Sasha, Please see in-line. Thank you. Jorge From: Alexander Vainshtein Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 10:24 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky , Alexander Ferdman , Shell Nakash , "bess@ietf.org" , "draft-saja

Re: [bess] All-Active Multi-homing and Virtual Ethernet Segments: A Question

2018-09-27 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
:01 PM To: "Luc Andre Burdet (lburdet)" , "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" , "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" Cc: Michael Gorokhovsky , Alexander Ferdman , Shell Nakash , "bess@ietf.org" , "draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment.auth...@ietf

Re: [bess] All-Active Multi-homing and Virtual Ethernet Segments: A Question

2018-09-27 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Sasha, Although I agree with Luc and Ali that an all-active solution can be added to the description, note that, in the current text, there is nothing (I think) that implies that you can use all-active mode with an ES that is associated to PWs. So unless we add that description for all-active,

Re: [bess] Second WG Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-vpls-multihoming-02

2018-09-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
I fully support the publication of this document. It should have been an RFC long time back. I don’t understand why it took so long. Nokia has an implementation of this draft in SROS. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" Date: Monday, September 24, 2018 at

Re: [bess] EVPN FECs in LSP Ping

2018-09-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Sasha, That is an excellent point. I agree the text should say that any MEP/MIP MAC addresses local to the PE should be advertised in EVPN. I would even add that, since those MACs are not subject to mobility, the PE should advertise them as “static”, i.e., with sticky bit set. Thanks. Jorge

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll for draft-malhotra-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-04

2018-09-04 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support for WG adoption, as a co-author. Not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:29 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll for

Re: [bess] WG last call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-04

2018-08-13 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
This document has been stable for a long time and it’s ready. Not aware of any relevant IPR. Also, Nokia SROS has an implementation of this draft that has been shipping for a long time now. Thank you. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" Date: Wednesday, August 8,

Re: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-per-mcast-flow-df-election

2018-08-13 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support as co-author. Not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 6:38 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WG adoption poll and IPR poll for

Re: [bess] new WGLC for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-05

2018-08-13 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support as co-author. The document has been significantly improved and it is ready. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 7:03 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] new WGLC for

Re: [bess] Shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-df-election-framework

2018-05-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Thank you Stephane. We’ll fix it for the next version. Jorge From: "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" <stephane.litkow...@orange.com> Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 2:03 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, "bess@ie

Re: [bess] Shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-df-election-framework

2018-05-23 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Stephane, We have addressed all your comments in rev 02 (just posted). Please see below with [S](Satya & Jorge). Thank you for your thorough review! Satya & Jorge From: "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM To: "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Eric Rescorla's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with COMMENT)

2018-05-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Eric, Thank you very much for your review. I addressed all your comments, please see below. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Eric Rescorla Date: Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:44 AM To: The IESG Cc: "zzh...@juniper.net" ,

Re: [bess] Adam Roach's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with COMMENT)

2018-05-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Adam, Thank you for reviewing. We expanded the terminology section. Should be better now. Thanks. Jorge -Original Message- From: Adam Roach Date: Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 7:57 AM To: The IESG Cc: "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisem...@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10

2018-05-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Barry, Thank you very much for reviewing. I addressed all your comments, see below. Thanks a bunch! Jorge -Original Message- From: Barry Leiba Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 3:51 PM To: "sec...@ietf.org" Cc:

Re: [bess] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10

2018-05-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Elwyn, Thank you very much for your thorough review. We addressed all your comments.. see below for more details, with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Elwyn Davies Date: Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 12:59 PM To: "gen-...@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Ignas Bagdonas' No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with COMMENT)

2018-05-18 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Ignas, Thank you very much for your review. We addressed all your comments. Please see below. Thanks, Jorge -Original Message- From: Ignas Bagdonas Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 9:25 AM To: The IESG Cc:

Re: [bess] WG Adoption and IPR Poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-03

2018-05-17 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support as co-author. This is an important document, implementations are already deployed. I’m not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. Thanks. Jorge From: "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018 at 12:24 PM To: "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-05-15 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
e'll make a few more changes suggested by the other reviewers and then publish the revision 11. Thank you! Jorge -Original Message- From: Benjamin Kaduk <ka...@mit.edu> Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 6:55 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <j

Re: [bess] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10

2018-05-14 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Geoff, Thank you very much for your comments. Please see in-line with [JORGE]. Thx Jorge -Original Message- From: Geoff Huston Date: Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 2:47 AM To: "rtg-...@ietf.org" Cc: "rtg-...@ietf.org" ,

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-05-14 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Benjamin, Please see my comments in-line with [JORGE]. And please, let us know if we are addressing your concerns with this, before publishing the new version. Thank you for the thorough review! Jorge -Original Message- From: Benjamin Kaduk Date: Wednesday, May 9,

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-fast-df-recovery-02

2018-05-14 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
As co-author, I fully support the document for WG adoption. Not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. Thank you. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 11:48 AM To: "bess@ietf.org"

Re: [bess] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-prefix-advertisement-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-05-10 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Alvaro, Thank you. We’ll keep it as normative then and try to progress draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding asap... We’ll look into Benjamin’s comments first and then try to address the other suggestions given. Should we wait for the telechat and your go-ahead before we publish a

Re: [bess] Shepherd's review of draft-ietf-bess-df-election-framework

2018-04-30 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Eric, Thank you for the comments. Please see in-line. -Original Message- From: Eric C Rosen Date: Monday, April 30, 2018 at 7:46 AM To: "Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)" , "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" ,

Re: [bess] WG adoption and IPR poll for draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-vpws-fxc-03.txt

2018-04-09 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
As co-author, I fully support this document for WG adoption. Not aware of any IPR relevant to it. Thank you. Jorge From: "UTTARO, JAMES" Date: Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:37 PM To: John E Drake , "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" ,

Re: [bess] WG Last Call and IPR Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpls-seamless-integ-01.txt

2018-03-29 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support. Not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. Nokia SROS has an implementation of this draft for a few years now. Thank you, Jorge _ From: Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB) Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 13:50 Subject: WG Last Call and

Re: [bess] WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework

2018-03-27 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Hi Stephane, Please see in-line. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 8:48 AM To: "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [bess] WGLC on

Re: [bess] WGLC on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework

2018-03-26 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Support. Not aware of any IPR relevant to this document. The AC-DF capability described in this document is implemented in Nokia SROS for some time now. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of "stephane.litkow...@orange.com" Date: Monday,

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-24 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
cents. Jorge From: Eric C Rosen <ero...@juniper.net> Date: Friday, March 23, 2018 at 5:00 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, Sandy Breeze <sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org> Subject: R

Re: [bess] About draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

2018-03-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
2018 at 8:27 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.raba...@nokia.com> Cc: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <saja...@cisco.com>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-pr...@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-pr...@ietf.org>, "bess@iet

Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

2018-03-22 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
8 at 1:57 PM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, Sandy Breeze <sandy.bre...@eu.clara.net>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [bess] draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-bum-opt-00 - clarification on problem description

Re: [bess] About draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

2018-03-21 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
you! Jorge -Original Message- From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <saja...@cisco.com> Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 11:48 AM To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, "draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-pr...@ietf.or

[bess] About draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy

2018-03-21 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Ali and authors, As discussed during the BESS session, these are the points that I think should be addressed in draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy before WG LC: 1) Fast Leave text addition There are quite a few

Re: [bess] RTG-DIR Telechat review of draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay

2018-02-21 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)
Thanks a lot Sasha for an excellent review and great comments. Jorge From: Alexander Vainshtein Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:53 PM To: "rtg-...@ietf.org" Cc: "rtg-...@ietf.org" ,

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