Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-25 Thread Loa Andersson
Folks, I'm very much om the same page as Andy, having knowledge of implementations is a good thing. A "requirement" that we have an implementation before requesting that the document is published as an RFC is in most cases also good. The tricky part is when to be flexible. I've asked for impleme

Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-25 Thread Kireeti Kompella
Sounds like a good idea to me. One tweak: having an official "release x.y @shipping date d" is unlikely for a draft. The value of one implementation (vs more) is that it shows that a spec is implementable and reasonably complete. So, this should be the focus, with details on how much of the spec

Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-25 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Based on my experience on both the vendor and operator side, I see some practical problems with this approach: - There are some (many?) operators that won’t put drafts into an RFP, only RFCs. - There are some (many?) vendors that won’t implement a draft or RFC, no matter how good the quality, unl

Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Vigoureux
Adrian, Thanks. Please see my reactions in-line. -m Le 25/11/2015 01:13, Adrian Farrel a écrit : Yeah, thanks Martin. The slide has... ==Raising the bar?== . Some documents are being pushed to IESG but without any implementation (plan) to support them . We are thinking of "requiring" that at

[bess] REG: draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df-02

2015-11-25 Thread sudeep g ggg
Respected Authors, I had gone through the draft at high level,I am happy to see a real provider provisioning issues addressed in your draft. Much appreciated. Some key highlights in your draft. 1. No changes. 2. Using existing features to address a problem. 3. Addresses provisioning issues. H

Re: [bess] Introducing a one-implementation requirement before WG last calls

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Vigoureux
Joel, Benson, hello. I agree that there has not been a lengthy discussion during the session but some people reacted to the proposal and expressed their support. Joel, on the specific point that a discussion in a meeting is informative, I fully agree, and the point of our e-mail is to contin

Re: [bess] REG: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-election-02

2015-11-25 Thread sudeep g ggg
Hi Jorge, Let me thank you for the mail. Since this mail thread is for one particular draft. I think it is good to open a new thread for discussing another draft. May I request you to give me some time to go through it and I get back.I will open a new thread for discussing your draft.Appreciat

Re: [bess] One question about Route-type2 usage in EVPN base protocol

2015-11-25 Thread Haoweiguo
Hi Ali, Thanks for your explanation. Yes, it’s clear for route-type2 message usage. For data plane MAC learning, CE’s MAC will be announced through two messages w/o IP address respectively. I also have another similar question for IP address announcement here. When each EVPN PE acts as distribu

Re: [bess] REG: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-election-02

2015-11-25 Thread Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)
Hi Sudhin, You may want to have a look at this draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-evpn-ac-df-02 Provides a solution for your use-case in EVPN, without any control plane changes compared to RFC7432. There are already implementations doing that. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS mailto

Re: [bess] REG: draft-mohanty-bess-evpn-df-election-02

2015-11-25 Thread sudeep g ggg
Hi Satya, Let me thank you for your mail,it is much appreciated.You will take this in to account in next revision, much appreciated so that all will be in same page. One more thought though just a random thought.I would like to bring your kind attention.Since section 7.1 you clearly explains th