Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-08 Thread Linda Dunbar
Adrian, Thank you. Below are the resolutions to your additional comments. Please let us know if you have further comments. Thank you very much, Linda From: Adrian Farrel Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:33 AM To: Linda Dunbar ; last-c...@ietf.org Cc: andrew-i...@liquid.tech;

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-08 Thread Linda Dunbar
Adrian, Thank you very much. RFC 9522 definition for Traffic Steering is very helpful. I will add the reference to RFC 9522 and add the definition for C-PE. C-PE:For SD-WAN network expanded from an existing VPN, the term C-PE refers to the PE (or CPE) of the existing

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-08 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi again, Linda. Here is the response to your second email. Again, comments in line, with snipping of agreed points. Best, Adrian From: Linda Dunbar Sent: 08 February 2024 01:58 To: adr...@olddog.co.uk; last-c...@ietf.org Cc: andrew-i...@liquid.tech; bess-cha...@ietf.org;

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-08 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi Linda, Thanks for considering all of my comments. I'll respond to your two emails separately. Comments inline. I snipped the obvious agreements. Cheers, Adrian From: Linda Dunbar Sent: 07 February 2024 00:23 To: adr...@olddog.co.uk; last-c...@ietf.org Cc: andrew-i...@liquid.tech;

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-07 Thread Linda Dunbar
Adrian, Please see below for the resolutions to your remaining comments. Thank you very much for the detailed comments. Linda -Original Message- From: Adrian Farrel Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 3:54 PM To: last-c...@ietf.org Cc: andrew-i...@liquid.tech; bess-cha...@ietf.org;

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
Adrian, Thank you very much for the extensive comments and suggestions. I am breaking the resolutions in two separate emails. This one addresses the comments to Section 3.1.2. Will have another email addressing the remaining comments. Can you check if the resolutions to your comments inserted

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread John Scudder
Hi Linda, Without doing a full review of the proposed language in context, I don’t think I can offer a firm thumbs-up or thumbs-down. But generally speaking, if the document allows the reader to understand what the security architecture is and how they would realize it, either by referencing

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
John, One key SD-WAN scenario involves expanding the existing VPN network by incorporating additional paths from other networks. In this context, the operator can efficiently utilize their primary management channel, initially designed for VPN control for the BGP to control the SD-WAN.

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread John Scudder
Yes, I noticed that, hence “no *IETF* specification”, it’s an individual draft. If the security model of the present spec relies on BGP-over-TLS, maybe a 00 individual contribution isn’t as firm a foundation as you’d like. Of course, I can’t speak for Roman, it’s his DISCUSS, I was just

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
John, There is a draft on BGP over TLS: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wirtgen-bgp-tls/ We are working with the author to enhance the draft. We will add the reference to BGP over TLS. And remove the BGP over DTLS. Can those changes address your comments? Thank you, Linda

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-06 Thread John Scudder
I haven’t done a full review of this document, but I did notice that Roman Danyliw balloted DISCUSS on version 15 [1], asking, among other things, "Are there pointers for BGP over DTLS? Over TLS?”. This doesn’t appear to have been addressed, either in Linda’s reply to Roman [2], or in the text

Re: [bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-03 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi, I read this document again as part of its second Last Call. I have a few comments that should ideally be fixed before passing the draft on to the RFC Editor. (I ran out of steam around Section 6, sorry.) Thanks, Adrian === I wondered about the implementation status of this document. One

[bess] Last Call: (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

2024-02-01 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess) to consider the following document: - 'BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send