Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-15 Thread Donald Eastlake
Revision -10 just posted has only this change (and the version and dates bumped). Thanks, Donald === Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e...@gmail.com On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:24 PM John Scudder wrote: >

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-15 Thread John Scudder
Works for me. Thanks for the additional discussion. —John > On Apr 15, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote: > > [External Email. Be cautious of content] > > > Hi John, > >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:40 PM John Scudder wrote: >> Hi Donald, >> >>> On Apr 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Donald

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-15 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi John, On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 5:40 PM John Scudder wrote: > Hi Donald, > > On Apr 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> First, an aside: RECOMMEND really isn't the same as SHOULD no >> matter what the RFCs say. As any native English speaker knows, >> "recommend" is

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-15 Thread John Scudder
Hi Donald, On Apr 15, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Donald Eastlake mailto:d3e...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi John, First, an aside: RECOMMEND really isn't the same as SHOULD no matter what the RFCs say. As any native English speaker knows, "recommend" is weaker than "should" and pretty much everyone,

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-15 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi John, First, an aside: RECOMMEND really isn't the same as SHOULD no matter what the RFCs say. As any native English speaker knows, "recommend" is weaker than "should" and pretty much everyone, including ADs, usually treats it as such. I pretty regularly see AD comments about how "should" is

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-13 Thread John Scudder
Donald, It being an AD’s prerogative to change his mind :-/ I’d like to discuss (if not necessarily DISCUSS, yet) this some more. Let’s remember what SHOULD means: 3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there may exist

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-13 Thread John Scudder
Thanks, Donald. I agree that my discuss and comments are fixed by -09. —John On Apr 12, 2021, at 9:08 PM, Donald Eastlake mailto:d3e...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi John, I've posted -09 which should resolve your DISCUSS and COMMENTs. Thanks, Donald === Donald E.

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-12 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi John, I've posted -09 which should resolve your DISCUSS and COMMENTs. Thanks, Donald === Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM John Scudder wrote: > Thanks

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-12 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
evpn-oam-req-fr...@ietf.org" , The IESG , "bess@ietf.org" Subject: Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Thanks for hopping threads, I shoulda caught that last one. Your proposed change looks fine, I’ll remove my DISCUSS

Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2021-04-12 Thread John Scudder
Thanks for hopping threads, I shoulda caught that last one. Your proposed change looks fine, I’ll remove my DISCUSS in anticipation of you issuing a new version. (One nit on your new text, “in order maximize” should be “in order to maximize”.) —John On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Donald