[bess] draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-msdp-sa-interoperation

2018-10-09 Thread Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
Hi, The draft had some good discussions prior to its adoption and we believe we have resolved issues/comments raised at that time. A few months ago Hejia did a RtgDir Early review, and a -01 revision was posted to address the comments (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/sZmyDbMVznyH1vFx

[bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-expl-track-12.txt

2018-10-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF. Title : Explicit Tracking with Wild Card Routes in Multicast VPN Authors : Andrew Dolganow

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-09 Thread Yutianpeng (Tim)
Hi Jai, I think draft-ietf-bess-evpn-df-election-framework-03 section-3.1 might help. Thanks & Regards Tim From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jaikumar Somasundaram Sent: 05 October 2018 06:07 To: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; bess@ietf.org Cc: Jiang He ; P Muthu

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread James Bensley
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 15:16, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > > James, Hi Andy, > It's much harder to mandate use of EL than the CW for several reasons: I didn't say it should be mandated, but recommended. > - CW implementation is much more common than EL implementation > - PWs and/or EVPN are rarely

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread Andrew G. Malis
James, Agreed. We touched on that in section 7 of draft-ietf-pals-ethernet-cw, where we advised operators that enabling post-CW DPI for ECMP calculations could cause misordering. Cheers, Andy On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:35 AM James Bensley wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 15:16, Andrew G. Malis

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Andy, James and all, One answer for Muthu’s question could be that the EVPN CP (including the EVPN Layer 2 Attributes Extended Community) cannot provide support for negotiating the CW usage in the case of MP2MP EVPN services. I agree that this can hardly be called a good answer, but I suspect th

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread James Bensley
On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 11:29, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > I fully agree that reordering due to lack of the CW happens, and that usage > of the CW is the right way to eliminate that. Hi Sasha, If I may rudely interject here. You have to be careful with your wording. The PWMCW doesn't eliminate

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-09 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
Thanks Jorge. I think that this optimization is not mentioned in the RFC 7432. Section 8.5 of RFC 7432: In the case of link or port failure, the affected PE withdraws its Ethernet Segment route. This will re-trigger the service carving procedures on all the PEs in the redundan

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread Andrew G. Malis
James, It's much harder to mandate use of EL than the CW for several reasons: - CW implementation is much more common than EL implementation - PWs and/or EVPN are rarely the only traffic in an MPLS traffic tunnel, rather, they will be multiplexed with other MPLS-based applications that are using t

Re: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Failure

2018-10-09 Thread Jaikumar Somasundaram
Thanks Mrinmoy. Response in-lined. From: Mrinmoy Ghosh (mrghosh) Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 11:40 PM To: Jaikumar Somasundaram ; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View) ; bess@ietf.org Cc: Jiang He ; P Muthu Arul Mozhi Subject: RE: [bess] EVPN MH: Backup node behavior in Primary Path Fa

Re: [bess] Signaling Control Word in EVPN

2018-10-09 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Andy hi! As always, very glad to hear from you. I fully agree that reordering due to lack of the CW happens, and that usage of the CW is the right way to eliminate that. However, I think that the situation with usage of the CW MP2MP EVPN services is somewhat different from the situation with P2