Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread JJZolx
andyg;454741 Wrote: Right now if you disable say, the Napster plugin, and you have Napster enabled as an app, it will not be returned in the menu from SbS. But it would still be returned by SN, so I guess it would always use SN in this case, yes. So how would you actually get to Napster

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:08 PM, JJZolx wrote: andyg;454741 Wrote: Right now if you disable say, the Napster plugin, and you have Napster enabled as an app, it will not be returned in the menu from SbS. But it would still be returned by SN, so I guess it would always use SN in this

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread JJZolx
andyg;455048 Wrote: If you've disabled the plugin, you probably don't want to get there anyway. This seems like an unlikely case to really worry too much about. I think you can still get to it via SN though. I don't think it's at all unlikely. A lot of people disable any plugins that

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:19 PM, JJZolx wrote: andyg;455048 Wrote: If you've disabled the plugin, you probably don't want to get there anyway. This seems like an unlikely case to really worry too much about. I think you can still get to it via SN though. I don't think it's at all unlikely.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread JJZolx
andyg;455053 Wrote: This might already work but I haven't tried it. Let me know after you have tested it, and file a bug if it doesn't work. Here's what I see: - Napster plugin is disabled on local SC - Napster was installed from test.sn.com and 'Display on home menu selected' for SB Touch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:50 PM, JJZolx wrote: If I remove the menu selection from the Home menu at test.sn.com (again requiring a reboot to take effect) and try again from My Apps, I get the same behavior as before in #3 - it doesn't offer to switch to SN and can't play audio. So it seems

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-04 Thread Mnyb
Hi is there any changes implemented ? I've noticed someting yesterday. I now got 2 last fm icons on my homescreen again in 7.4r7397. I had that condition for a while before but now i have: Last.fm Radio LASTFM_ACCOUNT The Last.fm Radio Icon wants to switch me to mysqueezebox.com ? Should I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread Triode
In the future when we have 3rd party applets/plugin support we need to think about versioning for compatibility with the host version and also for different versions of a specific applet/plugin and hence upgrades etc - its not an issue when all the code is actually already there and tied to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread andyg
I've rolled out the changes I talked about in my initial post. Please test and let me know if you find any problems. Notes: App Gallery - All Apps only shows apps that are not installed. This may be confusing to some, not sure... The UI on the new Player Settings tab is not final, I just did a

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread JJZolx
Does a player pick up these settings if it never connects with SN? Are they pushed through the local server? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread andyg
Yes. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67334 ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread JJZolx
This is definitely a nicer way of doing things. When you install an app, I think you should be taken directly to the 'Configure' page. Ideally with some type of message saying that you've succesfully installed the app, as many of the 'install' pages in 'App Gallery' look the same as the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-03 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:41 PM, JJZolx wrote: This is definitely a nicer way of doing things. When you install an app, I think you should be taken directly to the 'Configure' page. Ideally with some type of message saying that you've succesfully installed the app, as many of the 'install'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-02 Thread Phil Meyer
Hi Andy Grundman a...@slimdevices.com, Wouldn't it better if App Gallery only lists Apps that haven't been installed? i.e. have the uninstall/configure purely on My Apps? Yeah good point. Also, perhaps an option to ignore/hide an item in the App Gallery. Maybe having ignored an App, it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-02 Thread erland
andyg;453893 Wrote: App Gallery has a single button: Install App. This button enables the app for all of your current and future players. After install, this changes to Uninstall/Configure as it does today, uninstall would remove the app from all players, configure takes you to the My

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-02 Thread andyg
erland;454162 Wrote: So if I understand this correctly, this means that a new player automatically will get all previously installed apps enabled by default assuming they are supported on the player type. This sounds a lot better than the solution we have today. Right. Will this also

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-02 Thread erland
andyg;454163 Wrote: erland;454162 Wrote: Will this also work the same way in the future when install doesn't just enable a menu but actually downloads and installs something (like third party plugins/applets) ? I would think so, the first time that new player connects it will

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-02 Thread Andy Grundman
I'm guessing you will need some kind of Upgrade button too in the future or will application upgrades happen automatically ? You're getting a bit ahead of things. :) I honestly have not thought about that at all. ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
Oh, and one more thing: does more than one account mean for the service? I can't have more than one MySB account that the device knows of, can't I? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread andyg
I realize I forgot one option for the Players tab. A toggle for whether the app appears on the home menu or not. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread andyg
pippin;453898 Wrote: How would that players configuration matrix look like on the device/controller? There's no matrix on-device. You can switch accounts within an app though, for example Napster - Account: A - Switch to: B Possibly we could have home menu toggle on-device. Enable/disable

[SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread andyg
I know the current design of App Gallery and My Apps is frustrating to some (all?) and it's probably more frustrating for us developers and beta testers who have numerous players. I've been thinking a bit and have a proposal for some simple changes that I think will make the system work better.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
One more thing. You wrote as it is now. I just tried (yesterday's nightly) and there is no way to uninstall/modify an app. When I install it, the menu in the App Gallery doesn't change and I can just install it over and over again. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread andyg
Currently there should be an uninstall button on the App Gallery (one for each player), as well as one on the My Apps page in the upper-right. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
andyg;453925 Wrote: Currently there should be an uninstall button on the App Gallery (one for each player), as well as one on the My Apps page in the upper-right. Where? SBS Web IF doesn't have an App Gallery I don't see it in the menus delivered to iPeng And since there currently is no way

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Grundman
OK sorry I mean on the test.sn web UI. SC web UI will not have any of this, but the web UI will send users to MySB. On-device menus, I will probably add Uninstall, but I think it should require you to enter your MySB password because it will remove the app from all players.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
andyg;453929 Wrote: OK sorry I mean on the test.sn web UI. SC web UI will not have any of this, but the web UI will send users to MySB. On-device menus, I will probably add Uninstall, but I think it should require you to enter your MySB password because it will remove the app from

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:20 PM, pippin wrote: andyg;453929 Wrote: OK sorry I mean on the test.sn web UI. SC web UI will not have any of this, but the web UI will send users to MySB. On-device menus, I will probably add Uninstall, but I think it should require you to enter your MySB

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
andyg;453936 Wrote: By running 7.4 with a valid account entered, it should already have all of your players listed, etc. Is that not working? It does have them listed, but I can't CONTROL them. Even when I shut down the server, they stay disconnected. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread pippin
OK, I see I can configure it even when a player is not connected to SN. One thing I DON'T see, though, is the option to add an app to the home menu. I do see this on the device's menu. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:46 PM, pippin wrote: OK, I see I can configure it even when a player is not connected to SN. One thing I DON'T see, though, is the option to add an app to the home menu. I do see this on the device's menu. Yeah this is missing and will be added.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Phil Meyer
App Gallery has a single button: Install App. This button enables the app for all of your current and future players. After install, this changes to Uninstall/Configure as it does today, uninstall would remove the app from all players, configure takes you to the My Apps page. Wouldn't it better

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Phil Meyer wrote: App Gallery has a single button: Install App. This button enables the app for all of your current and future players. After install, this changes to Uninstall/Configure as it does today, uninstall would remove the app from all players,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Mark Miksis
andyg;453893 Wrote: Comments? Did I forget anything? I think this is great. Isn't there also already a plan to ease upgrades? I can't remember, but what happens if a user upgrades from SC 7.3.3 to SBS 7.4 and already has valid Rhapsody credentials entered in SN? Will they still need to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 1, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Mark Miksis wrote: andyg;453893 Wrote: Comments? Did I forget anything? I think this is great. Isn't there also already a plan to ease upgrades? I can't remember, but what happens if a user upgrades from SC 7.3.3 to SBS 7.4 and already has valid Rhapsody

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Proposal for improving App Gallery/My Apps

2009-09-01 Thread Mnyb
It is not possible to remove an app via the controller ? but you can install them. Must I go to mysb (SN) to remove an aplication ? And please put the radio providers under internet radio again, I don't want for example shoutcast or radioio as an app I want them back under internetradio where