Re: [Bf-committers] Can we please stop breaking APIs?

2011-07-15 Thread Campbell Barton
Nope, the api is not stable and probably wont be until blender development ceases. Instead we document what changes/breaks between releases, and try to keep *reasonably* stable. http://www.blender.org/documentation/blender_python_api_2_58_release/change_log.html As for this change, I didn't

Re: [Bf-committers] Keymap storage management

2011-07-15 Thread Sean Olson
Is there a possibility of bringing back the 'double press' keys for different functions? (Like the old B=Box select, BB=Circle Select). I personally want to have 1 be front view, 1,1 be back view, 7 be top view 7,7 be bottom view, etc, etc. Holding Ctrl all the time is giving me a hellava bad

Re: [Bf-committers] Keymap storage management

2011-07-15 Thread Carsten Wartmann
Am 15.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Sean Olson: Is there a possibility of bringing back the 'double press' keys for different functions? (Like the old B=Box select, BB=Circle Select). I personally want to have 1 be front view, 1,1 be back view, 7 be top view 7,7 be bottom view, etc, etc. Holding

[Bf-committers] 'mathutils' module now available standalone

2011-07-15 Thread Campbell Barton
mathutils is not too dependent on the rest of blender so I've setup a project to allow mathutils to run as a standalone python module. http://code.google.com/p/blender-mathutils/ not sure how useful this will end up being but this has been requested before and if someones already familier with

Re: [Bf-committers] Can we please stop breaking APIs?

2011-07-15 Thread Diego B
Hello, On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, the api is not stable and probably wont be until blender development ceases. so.. that mean that the api never will be stable ? because blender is always in development, like any other software. At this

Re: [Bf-committers] Can we please stop breaking APIs?

2011-07-15 Thread Martin Poirier
Completely agree with what Diego said. Also, having the breaking changes in the release notes isn't very useful when working on development builds. Breaking changes should be documented as they are made (and a commit log is not documentation). Martin --- On Fri, 7/15/11, Diego B

Re: [Bf-committers] Keymap storage management

2011-07-15 Thread Nathaniel Lane
If we were to do this, I personally would like to see it as a preference you could change. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Carsten Wartmann c...@blenderbuch.de wrote: Am 15.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Sean Olson: Is there a possibility of bringing back the 'double press' keys for

Re: [Bf-committers] 'mathutils' module now available standalone

2011-07-15 Thread Stephen M. McQuay
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:17:25PM +1000, Campbell Barton wrote: mathutils is not too dependent on the rest of blender so I've setup a project to allow mathutils to run as a standalone python module. Is there any reason we don't use NumPy/Scipy? -- Stephen M. McQuay http://mcquay.me/vcf

Re: [Bf-committers] 'mathutils' module now available standalone

2011-07-15 Thread Martin Poirier
Mathutils wraps internal data structures from the C side. Martin --- On Fri, 7/15/11, Stephen M. McQuay step...@mcquay.me wrote: From: Stephen M. McQuay step...@mcquay.me Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] 'mathutils' module now available standalone To: bf-blender developers

Re: [Bf-committers] Can we please stop breaking APIs?

2011-07-15 Thread Jim Williams
I've a 2.49 script I've been wondering when I should try updating to 2.5x, and I see now that the answer is NEVER. That's ok. I've found the documentation for the new scheme, and possibly the new scheme itself -- though that is unclear -- almost impenetrable. Sticking with 2.49 might be the be

Re: [Bf-committers] 'mathutils' module now available standalone

2011-07-15 Thread Campbell Barton
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Stephen M. McQuay step...@mcquay.me wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:17:25PM +1000, Campbell Barton wrote: mathutils is not too dependent on the rest of blender so I've setup a project to allow mathutils to run as a standalone python module. Is there any

Re: [Bf-committers] Can we please stop breaking APIs?

2011-07-15 Thread Campbell Barton
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Diego B bdi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, the api is not stable and probably wont be until blender development ceases. so.. that mean that the api never will be stable ? because

[Bf-committers] Duplication

2011-07-15 Thread Knapp
Why does duplication have rotation only with vertex and scale only with face? I know I can just apply the scale or rotation to get the effect I need but 2.4 was way better in this respect. Are there future plans or is there something here I don't get? Thanks -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons