[Bf-committers] Planned downtime for *.blender.org today

2014-11-25 Thread Dan McGrath
Hey, In the next hour or so we will have some brief downtime for all blender.org servers as we move some wires around on the rack. If all goes well, it shouldn't last more than about 10 or 15 minutes. Dan ___ Bf-committers mailing list

[Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Martijn Berger
Hi everyone, I would like to propose - actually checking the OpenGL context when starting up blender. - fatal error when less then the required OpenGL 1.4 is found. - warning when less then OpenGL 2.1 is found (Nvidia NV30 released in 2003) There are some technical issue with giving

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Antony Riakiotakis
I'm not sure if setting the OpenMP variable system wide is a nicer solution than what we have, but +1 from me on warning about crappy OpenGL. On 25 November 2014 at 14:49, Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to propose - actually checking the OpenGL

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Martijn Berger
Hi Antony, For the record. I would plan 2 options during installing, 1) set globally 2) set in shortcut And if it is not set correctly blender might warn about this ( not sure how that would work from UI perspective though ). On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Antony Riakiotakis

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Sergey Sharybin
We're being frustrated by someone setting python environment variables globally in the system which makes blender not to run, but now we're proposing to add some global environment variables by ourselves. Anyone to foresee what kind of negative effect it could cause? Adding environment variables

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Thomas Dinges
Hi Martijn, - I am fine with the OpenGL error / warning, that is a good idea and hopefully saves us some Blender does not run reports. - Getting rid of the launcher is a good idea, but I don't think we should set a global environment variable. The shortcut idea might be the best, even though

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Martijn Berger
Hi Thomas, The shortcut idea might be the best, even though there is no guarantee that the user actually starts Blender via that. - this is why we need a good way to give a user feedback to some system / configuration issue that is impacting his/her blender experience. But how do we do that part

Re: [Bf-committers] Planned downtime for *.blender.org today

2014-11-25 Thread Dan McGrath
Hey again, Okay, should all be done now. Hopefully a small few of you only noticed a brief hiccups in traffic as wires were moved around. We should be gigabit on all of the servers now finally, as opposed to just download.b.o (yay \o/). Dan On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Dan McGrath

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Sergey Sharybin
What is the global issue with the launcher anyway? It's not nice solution from coder perspective, but for users it's most seamless approach. We might look into using icc or clang (which i believe is planned to have openmp support in 3.6) as the official compiler for windows, then we simply

Re: [Bf-committers] Usability Suggestion for Pie Menu

2014-11-25 Thread Sean Olson
Keep in mind that sticky keys is on the docket as well. The click- release will be able to trigger one operator while click and hold will trigger another. I think it would mesh fine with disabled click operation fine, but we need to keep that context in mind as well. -Sean

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Campbell Barton
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Sybren A. Stüvel syb...@stuvel.eu wrote: Hi all, Sorry, my previous mail was sent out too quickly. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:49:15PM +0100, Martijn Berger wrote: - getting

Re: [Bf-committers] Windows platform things to do before 2.73

2014-11-25 Thread Fazekas László
It is possible to load a dll from the program too, not only with the linker. It needs some extra code, parsing the symbols, etc. Bests, Laszlo 2014-11-25 21:16 keltezéssel, Martijn Berger írta: On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Sybren A. Stüvel syb...@stuvel.eu wrote: Hi all, Sorry, my