Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread via Bikies
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Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Jym Dyer via Bikies
Quoting Robert Schultz: > it could be that population is more educated about the laws > regarding motorized bicycles than the average traditional > cyclist in the same way that traditional cyclists are more > knowledgeable about cycling laws than motorists are, even > though both bicycles and cars

Re: [Bikies] Bikies Digest, Vol 93, Issue 7

2016-07-08 Thread Darryl Jordan via Bikies
sts.danenet.org> > July 8, 2016 at 9:45 AM > > If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let > > them ride their electric bikes on roads and not on bike paths. > > > > Admittedly, my n is pretty small, but I rese

Re: [Bikies] Bikies Digest, Vol 93, Issue 7

2016-07-08 Thread Robert Schultz via Bikies
more cyclists of larger habitus using > > electric assist bikes. Then there are a whole bunch or cargo/kid > > hauler electric assist bikes on trails around town. > > > > I think they are a good thing. Most of us able bodied, hard core > > enthusiasts will put off or scorn the

Re: [Bikies] FW: NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread William Hauda via Bikies
The complete text of state law as it impacts E-bikes (346.79 (5) is the critical item): Electric bicycles in Wisconsin are defined as motor bicycles. Motor bicycle operators are required to have a valid driver’s license. Motor bicycles cannot be used on bike paths unless they are being

Re: [Bikies] FW: NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Brian Mink via Bikies
Strikes me as primarily an education versus an enforcement issue. I queried a group of cyclists via email about their knowledge of the rules/laws that Chuck and Bill reference and to a person not one in 10 of these life long cyclists were familiar with the Wisconsin Law governing electric

Re: [Bikies] FW: NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread William Hauda via Bikies
Make that 28 mph on Speed Pedelecs. But I'm certain there are people working on faster speeds. It's human nature. On 7/8/2016 11:05 AM, William Hauda via Bikies wrote: Currently Wisconsin state law prohibits use of E-bikes on bike ways with the motor engaged. That is Madison's

Re: [Bikies] FW: NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread William Hauda via Bikies
Currently Wisconsin state law prohibits use of E-bikes on bike ways with the motor engaged. That is Madison's policy also. There is a question whether the restrictions apply to state trails and the Nonmotorized Recreation and Transportation Trails Council is currently exploring options.

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Jym Dyer via Bikies
Quoting Brian Mink: > Let's assume that most folks who use electric assist do so > based on some need that we probably don't know about. =v= My experience is that this is true some of the time, but not most of the time. So I can't really assume that. > I've noticed that most west coast cities

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Jym Dyer via Bikies
Quoting tim wong: >> And it's bogus to say these are for sedentary folks. >> By far, the most people who use them will be former >> bicyclists. =v= This is exactly my concern, because for decades the purveyors of e-gadgets have targeted bicyclists for their sales and marketing, not motorists. We

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Brian Mink via Bikies
I think one can make a reasonable argument that there are really two classes of electric bicycles: 1) Electric assist which requires pedaling input in order to activate and continue the use of the electric assist motor. The intent being that the motor is primarily used to assist in climbing

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread ivar moi via Bikies
It’s a motor cycle and belongs on the street not a bike path-just like this:On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Strawser via Bikies wrote: > > Brian Mink said: “I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow > electric bikes do have rules that include behaving in

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Chuck Strawser via Bikies
Brian Mink said: "I've noticed that most west coast cities that allow electric bikes do have rules that include behaving in regard to maximum speed, passing, remaining non aggressive and the like. Should Madison have such rules and post them? Probably." Madison already has rules, and does post

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Brian Mink via Bikies
I happen to know folks who due to one arthritic malady or less than optimal joint replacement surgery have opted for electric assist bikes or wheels with hub motors. I also have taken note of many more cyclists of larger habitus using electric assist bikes. Then there are a whole bunch or

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread Eric White via Bikies
And don't get me started on bikes with chains. Either ride a draisine the way God intended or get off the path! On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:17 AM, tim wong via Bikies < bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote: > If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let > them ride their

Re: [Bikies] NYTimes/Gretchen Reynolds: The Surprising Health Benefits of an Electric Bike

2016-07-08 Thread tim wong via Bikies
If that what it takes to get these sedentary brutes onto a bike, then let them ride their electric bikes on roads and not on bike paths. There are a few motorized bikes riding around the east side and, like all motorists, they are not careful and ride way too close to bikes they pass. Admittedly,