Re: [Bikies] crosswalk diagram and explanation of rules

2016-10-18 Thread Andy Bach via Bikies
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Scott Morris Rose via Bikies <
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> Don't recall and cannot locate that post, but here's a consolation prize:
> "elephant feet."
>
>  http://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/292716091.html
>


I couldn't find anything in Madison on that but:
http://nacto.org/publication/urban-bikeway-design-guide/
intersection-treatments/intersection-crossing-markings/

mentions them as an option (see the Design Guidance image).


> In BC, riding a bicycle on a sidewalk is not legal (unless explicit
> signage or local regulation allows it), nor is cycling in a crosswalk, even
> when it's part of a cycling-allowed path... unless there are elephant feet.
>

In Wisconsin, the sidewalk legality is controlled by the cities, not the
state

http://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/safety/education/bike/bike-crossing-guide.pdf
http://www.griessmeyerlaw.com/wisconsin-bicycle-laws

The GriesMeyr site has a bunch of bike stuff (though it's a little
confusing) - their digest of Madison's laws
http://www.griessmeyerlaw.com/madison-bike-laws



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Re: [Bikies] crosswalk diagram and explanation of rules

2016-10-17 Thread Scott Morris Rose via Bikies
Don't recall and cannot locate that post, but here's a consolation prize:
"elephant feet."

 http://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/292716091.html

In BC, riding a bicycle on a sidewalk is not legal (unless explicit signage
or local regulation allows it), nor is cycling in a crosswalk, even when
it's part of a cycling-allowed path... unless there are elephant feet.

Recently, ICBC - the provincial insurance agency - tweeted a PSA with an
image of a cyclist riding across just such a crosswalk with a message
"reminding" cyclists not to cycle in crosswalks. That highlighted the fact
that few people are aware of the meaning of the markings, evidently
including some traffic professionals. That attracted the expected outrage
from cycling advocates, and is when I learned what elephant feet meant.


On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Robert Schultz via Bikies <
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> Hello,
>
> I may be misremembering, but I believe somebody shared a link to a very
> clear and helpful diagram of crosswalk use, including showing when a
> pedestrian/cyclist is considered "in the crosswalk". I tried to seach old
> e-mails and on Google, but I'm not coming up with it, so I was hoping
> somebody might be able to link it here?
>
> Thanks!
> -R
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Re: [Bikies] crosswalk diagram and explanation of rules

2016-10-17 Thread Grant Foster via Bikies
The crosswalk is defined as starting in the roadway, so it begins at the
curb/gutter line. Once your foot or wheel breaks that plane, you're "in"
the crosswalk and vehicle operators travelling in the roadway are expected
to yield the right of way.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM Robert Schultz via Bikies <
bikies@lists.danenet.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I may be misremembering, but I believe somebody shared a link to a very
> clear and helpful diagram of crosswalk use, including showing when a
> pedestrian/cyclist is considered "in the crosswalk". I tried to seach old
> e-mails and on Google, but I'm not coming up with it, so I was hoping
> somebody might be able to link it here?
>
> Thanks!
> -R
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[Bikies] crosswalk diagram and explanation of rules

2016-10-17 Thread Robert Schultz via Bikies
Hello,

I may be misremembering, but I believe somebody shared a link to a very
clear and helpful diagram of crosswalk use, including showing when a
pedestrian/cyclist is considered "in the crosswalk". I tried to seach old
e-mails and on Google, but I'm not coming up with it, so I was hoping
somebody might be able to link it here?

Thanks!
-R
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