Re: DNS passthrough on no explicit result?

2014-01-31 Thread Vernon Schryver
require SMTP clients (mail senders) to infer an implicit MX from derived A or records. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list

Re: RPZ2 patch for 9.9.4-release -- can I use the -rc1 patch?

2013-09-25 Thread Vernon Schryver
. Please see http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits http://lists.redbarn.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsrpz-info http://lists.redbarn.org/mailman/listinfo/ratelimits Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: RRL probably not useful for DNS IP blacklists,

2013-09-24 Thread Vernon Schryver
and the proposals to put B-trees into the DNS wire protocol make only if you assume that rsync is the only way to distribute DNSBL data and that wildcards cannot be used in DNSBLs because rbldnsd didn't like them and that rsync is the only way to distribute DNSBL data. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: RRL probably not useful for DNS IP blacklists, was Re: New Versions of BIND are available (9.9.4, 9.8.6, and 9.6-ESV-R10)

2013-09-23 Thread Vernon Schryver
the the machinery in any full featured DNS implementation a dyanamic DB? The term database should not imply sql or even relational. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe

Re: RRL probably not useful for DNS IP blacklists,

2013-09-23 Thread Vernon Schryver
makes little more sense than protecting a reverse zone. By the way, how much smaller would that DNSBL be if it could use wildcards? I suspect a real (as opposed to synthetic) DNSBL has a lot of repetition in all except the last labels. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: RRL probably not useful for DNS IP blacklists, was Re: New Versions of BIND are available (9.9.4, 9.8.6, and 9.6-ESV-R10)

2013-09-20 Thread Vernon Schryver
for unrelated reasons. Major DNSBL providers have years since limited anonymous clients for business or other reasons. For example, I think Spamhaus limits anonymous clients to fewer than 3 queries/second. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit

Re: New Versions of BIND are available (9.9.4, 9.8.6, and 9.6-ESV-R10)

2013-09-19 Thread Vernon Schryver
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Re: New Versions of BIND are available (9.9.4, 9.8.6, and 9.6-ESV-R10)

2013-09-19 Thread Vernon Schryver
think something else was broken. Recall that the design goals of RRL include contining to provide services to legitimate DNS clients at the same IP address as are being forged in a DNS reflection DoS attack. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: BIND Performance with Huge RPZ

2013-07-12 Thread Vernon Schryver
the link labeled Patch files for BIND9 on http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits Both of those versions are or will be in official BIND releases. I've lost track of which releases have or will have which of those two RPZ sets of performance improvements. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: BIND Performance with Huge RPZ

2013-07-12 Thread Vernon Schryver
policy zones is in none of those and so will not be in 9.9.4. My bet would be on 9.10 along with client IP address triggers and drop and truncate actions. I think the multiple zone speed-up is in the subscription-only 9.9.4-S and so will be in 9.9.4-S1. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: How to suppress ADDITIONAL SECTION per zone

2013-07-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
and the additional tuning it could require. Our experience is: the RRL patch, used with its default parameters, simply does the job. (thanks for the good new.) See http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit

Re: RRL and avoiding contributing to DDoS (Was: How to suppress ADDITIONAL SECTION per zone)

2013-07-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
reflection attack, it can be sending a lot of bits/second. Some DNS servers are not bothered by few extra Gbit/sec of DNS output bandwidth, but many are In other words, as I see them, as DNS reflection mitigation, minimal-responses yes is like blocking ANY, just wishful thinking. Vernon Schryverv

Re: RPZ - how to modify NS records in answer?

2013-06-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
instead? rpz-nsdomain is wrong. The special RPZ owner labels are rpz-ip, rpz-nsdname, rpz-nsip, and some day rpz-client-ip. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from

Re: Rate-Limit Question

2013-06-15 Thread Vernon Schryver
the XML patches to add a date and perhaps extract some version numbers. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks... and a trivial proposal

2013-06-14 Thread Vernon Schryver
reductions in network and CPU load during attacks thanks to RRL, but they were not the intended victims of the attacks. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com Please join me in trying not to feed the troll. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks... and a trivial proposal

2013-06-14 Thread Vernon Schryver
checklist for any UDP based protocol. A year+ ago, Paul said Make it so for BIND9 DNS, and we started hashing out details. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks... and a trivial proposal

2013-06-13 Thread Vernon Schryver
these rules in the external view on an open resolver: *. CNAME tpc-only-rpz. *.mydomain CNAME passthru.rpz. Like RRL, such ideas not as good as closing the resolver, but less bad than leaving it unprotected. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks... and a trivial proposal

2013-06-13 Thread Vernon Schryver
+attack Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: DNS Amplification Attacks... and a trivial proposal

2013-06-13 Thread Vernon Schryver
done to BGP sessions and so forth and so on. Consider the implications of those facts, as well as the general meaning of denial of service attack on any Final Ultimate Solution that requires DDoS victims to send packets to DNS servers. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: any requests

2013-06-06 Thread Vernon Schryver
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Re: any requests

2013-06-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
of the RRsets. However, in both cases, the proverb applies. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list

Re: any requests

2013-06-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
, but it comes from the same school of security expertise. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https

Re: any requests

2013-06-02 Thread Vernon Schryver
: For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind

Re: DDOS attack Bind 9.9 - P2

2013-05-03 Thread Vernon Schryver
and if so, how urgently. And where do I download this patch? See the links on http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind

Re: DDOS attack Bind 9.9 - P2

2013-05-03 Thread Vernon Schryver
effects are generally limited to pauses and slow downs as affected applications time out and retry. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing

Re: DDOS attack Bind 9.9 - P2

2013-04-30 Thread Vernon Schryver
iptables rules that do as good a job as RRL. However, the common iptable rules that rate limit incoming requests based entirely on either query types or DNS client IP addresses block ilegitimate queries and so are distinctly inferior to RRL. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

RE: I'm having thousands of queries ...

2013-04-15 Thread Vernon Schryver
that repeat DNS requests. See http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https

Re: RPZ and negative answers

2013-04-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
.) I don't know what I did to make the test I tried fail. Besides, when trying to rewrite based on names, the code uses the current state of query name (possibly along a CNAME chain) or ns.name, the name of a relevant name server. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: trouble compiling bind 9.9.2-P2 with rate limit patch rl-9.9.2-P2.patch

2013-04-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
?q=patch+command Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: trouble compiling bind 9.9.2-P2 with rate limit patch rl-9.9.2-P2.patch

2013-04-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
with RRL. Currently there are at least FreeBSD ports and a Red Hat Enterprise Linux Desktop update. See https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2013-0550.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906312 and http://www.freebsd.org/ports/dns.html#bind99-9.9.2.1 Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: rate limit dns query response ...

2013-04-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
probably use BIND9 9.9.3b2. 4. add something like this to named.conf rate-limit { responses-per-second 5; }; Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list

Re: RPZ and negative answers

2013-04-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
using RPZ to trap the malware into contacting the honeypot server. Why isn't it both sufficient and better to list the NS servers or NS servers for the NS servers of the evil domains? Won't NS servers for the N domains be known, espcially after the first of the N domains goes active? Vernon

Re: Blocking private addresses with a optionq

2013-04-03 Thread Vernon Schryver
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Re: RPZ and negative answers

2013-04-03 Thread Vernon Schryver
settings to enable rpz-nsip and rpz-nsdname rules. They are enabled by default in future released versions of BIND as well as the speed-up patches that can found by following the link labeled Patch files for BIND9 on http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: Does 9.9.2-P2 support rate-limit configuration?

2013-04-01 Thread Vernon Schryver
the version string for the FreeBSD ports. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: Hack Attempt?

2013-03-27 Thread Vernon Schryver
in the SOA MNAME field), and to any servers listed in the also-notify option. If master-only, notifies are only sent for master zones. If explicit, notifies are sent only to servers explicitly listed using also-notify. If no, no notifies are sent. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: Suspecious DNS traffic

2013-03-25 Thread Vernon Schryver
kinds of reflection DoS attacks. Many stateful firewalls can also record the source and destination IP addresses and port numbers of outgoing UDP packets and allow subsequent incoming UDP packets with source and destination reversed. This has nothing to do with TCP. Vernon Schryverv

Re: querying TLD nameservers - limitations

2013-03-24 Thread Vernon Schryver
are irrelevant. They're like those who define spam as that which they don't do. http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/that-which-we-dont.html Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-22 Thread Vernon Schryver
://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoffman-dane-smime-04 http://www.dmarc.org/draft-dmarc-base-00-02.txt Is SRV the precedent being followed? Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-18 Thread Vernon Schryver
that you label very little negative impact and ignore those hypothetical TXT abuse scaling problems...not to mention complying with RFC 4408bis. Whatever is done by vanity domains and by domains that publish ~all or ?all without _dmarc will remain irrelevant. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
and TXT records. https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6686.txt Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
in the core must be soon, because IPv6 has already been baking for a lot longer than 10 years. Besides, unlike TXT for SPF, IPv4 has real problems in the real world. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: 100% CPU / wedge with 9.8.3-P4 RPZ?

2013-03-16 Thread Vernon Schryver
-2013 00:04:14.447 16-Mar-2013 07:21:07.576 16-Mar-2013 11:06:46.515 Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org

Re: 100% CPU / wedge with 9.8.3-P4 RPZ?

2013-03-16 Thread Vernon Schryver
to be made without a core file. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind

Re: 100% CPU / wedge with 9.8.3-P4 RPZ?

2013-03-16 Thread Vernon Schryver
+file Gdb would have been handy for looking at named without creating a core file or disturbing the process by more than what it would see as a jump in time. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind

Re: how to verify RPZ with a 'known bad' domain from 3rd party zone file?

2013-03-11 Thread Vernon Schryver
the rate-limit category and the querylog option. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org

Re: Initial BIND 9.9.2 RPZ xfr (spamhaus) failing with failed to connect: timed out ?

2013-03-07 Thread Vernon Schryver
was at 07-Mar-2013 23:11. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: 3rd party CNAMEs and open recursion

2013-03-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
with a Windows thing, I want to use my trusted, DNSSEC aware resolver. I wanted to use TSIG or SIG, but could find no way to tell Windows' stub anything about any keys. Tunnelling was easier than fiddling with BIND on Window, and works fine. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
of your legitimate domains? Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
solutions of https://www.cabforum.org/Guidance-Deprecated-Internal-Names.pdf linked from that Entrust.net web page mentions DANE or DNSSEC not at all but does include some less plausible solutions? Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https

Re: Problems with resolving a local tld

2013-02-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
) before DNS (while ignoring the DNS ubber alles crowds), what is the problem with short local names? I often use short names inside my network. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: allow-recursion slowing server to crawl

2013-02-27 Thread Vernon Schryver
://www.isc.org/software/bind8/security/matrix Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: disabling lame server logging

2013-02-26 Thread Vernon Schryver
server but fall back to another server. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman

Re: allow-query and views

2013-02-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
view defined in bin/named/config.c. https://www.google.com/search?q=dig+command+web finds at least three web pages with loose enough parsing to allow not only simply requests for A records but poking at chaos, so you don't need to pay for a shell account somewhere or rely on charity. Vernon

Re: allow-query and views

2013-02-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
. Figured that the specific view ones were all that was needed. Now I am upset. It's not a real view, because that you can't change it except by editing the BIND source, using the version, hostname, and server-id options, hiding it as the ARM says, or with default options. Vernon Schryverv

Re: allow-query and views

2013-02-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
bug) when I decided to stop hiding the version I use lest anyone think I don't do what I advocate with BIND patches. I don't know whether the bug is in the ARM or the code. If you pick one, I can argue the other. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support

2013-02-19 Thread Vernon Schryver
costs some time and effort and risks breakage. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org

Re: broken ISP in china

2013-02-18 Thread Vernon Schryver
such as this. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users

Re: Free secondary servers supporting DNSSEC?

2013-02-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
RRSIG and NSEC or NSEC3 record types? Or does not not haves EDNS support? In any case, some naming and shaming seems appropriate. Basic DNSSEC support (i.e. maybe not yet TLSA or SMIMEA) is a fundamental checklist item today. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: Free secondary servers supporting DNSSEC?

2013-02-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
expect for holidays? Why isn't there far more noise in the graphs? Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org

Re: dns_journal_write_transaction on managed-keys-zone

2013-02-11 Thread Vernon Schryver
that might cause managed key errors. That raises the obvious questions: - Was the previous version that did not have those errors BIND 9.9.2? - Was anything changed besides installing the patch in the BIND source and the rate-limit{} statement in named.conf? Vernon Schryverv

RE: Selective resolution in a corporate environment

2013-02-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
with the RRL patches. See the link on http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits There is also the RPZ mailing list at https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsrpz-interest Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Selective resolution in a corporate environment

2013-02-05 Thread Vernon Schryver
as RPZ. I've long wanted better ways for application code I've written to adjust resolver choices than whacking /etc/resolv.conf. You can pervert the _res interface, but it's worse than ugly. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https

Re: injecting a temp entry into dns cache

2013-02-02 Thread Vernon Schryver
DNSSEC, which make a local DNS zone useless. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org

Re: MNAME not a listed NS record

2013-01-16 Thread Vernon Schryver
, and generally scary for mere humans to handle, and so you'd better buy their patent medicine. On the other hand, good outfits simply sell competent services, perhaps including technical support, but always without acting like proverbial used car and computer saleslime. Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com

Re: gitnamed, a project to manage name server by git

2013-01-08 Thread Vernon Schryver
matter because high temperatures can only be a good thing given the weather.) Vernon Schryverv...@rhyolite.com ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users

Re: Getting RPZ statistics

2012-12-07 Thread Vernon Schryver
exist. I agree that the idea is worth thinking about. Recent versions of the BIND9 RPZ code has improved logging. On DNS servers that are not too busy, it might be possible to synthesize useful RPZ statistics with awk/perl/whatever applied to the RPZ log category. Vernon Schryverv