Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-17 Thread /dev/rob0
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Evan Hunt [mailto:e...@isc.org] On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:35 AM, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: I'm just wondering, is an option like unbound's domain-insecure intentionally not implemented in in BIND? Or did just nobody care enough to implement

AW: AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-15 Thread Stefan.Lasche
If the zone isn't signed, it shouldn't be trying to validate it as there's nothing to validate. Unless this fictional TLD now has a real delegated counter-part? Stuart Just for clarification: If a TLD does not exist, it can neither be signed nor unsigned. And, officially, the mentioned TLD

RE: AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Stuart Browne
Unfortunately we can't sign the fictional TLD, since we are neither master nor slave of the zone. We are just forwarding our queries to a foreign authorative Server. Grüße, Stefan If the zone isn't signed, it shouldn't be trying to validate it as there's nothing to validate. Unless this

Re: AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Warren Kumari
NSEC. W On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Stuart Browne stuart.bro...@bomboratech.com.au wrote: Unfortunately we can't sign the fictional TLD, since we are neither master nor slave of the zone. We are just forwarding our queries to a foreign authorative Server. Grüße, Stefan If the zone

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Evan Hunt
On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:35 AM, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: I'm just wondering, is an option like unbound's domain-insecure intentionally not implemented in in BIND? Or did just nobody care enough to implement it yet? I have resisted implementing it because it's too easy for an operator to

AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Stefan.Lasche
DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:35 AM, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: I'm just wondering, is an option like unbound's domain-insecure intentionally not implemented in in BIND? Or did just nobody care enough to implement it yet? I have resisted implementing

Re: AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Graham Clinch
On 14/01/2015 09:34, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: Our customer uses a fictional Toplevel Domain[...] Can you flip the problem on its head, by signing the fictional TLD and deploying managed-keys (or trusted-keys) on the validating resolvers? Graham

AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Stefan.Lasche
Hi Chris, While you wait for this to become generally available, you can do what I like to do for my customers: Use two layers of recursive DNS servers. The first layer takes queries from clients, knows about your insecure domains (through stub zones, slave zones, or conditional

AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Stefan.Lasche
Hi Daniel, You may also try to disable all DNSSEC algorithms for a zone: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2014-October/012282.html Regards, Daniel Also a nice idea for a workaround :) But it did not work for me. This is what I tried: Options {

AW: AW: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-14 Thread Stefan.Lasche
Our customer uses a fictional Toplevel Domain[...] Can you flip the problem on its head, by signing the fictional TLD and deploying managed-keys (or trusted-keys) on the validating resolvers? Graham Unfortunately we can't sign the fictional TLD, since we are neither master nor slave of

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:35 AM, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: I know that BIND has no feature to disable DNSSEC validation for selected Zones/Domains (when working as a recursor). One can only enable/disable DNSSEC validation globally per view (as a boolean on/off). [...] I'm just

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Daniel Stirnimann
Hello Stefan You may also try to disable all DNSSEC algorithms for a zone: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2014-October/012282.html Regards, Daniel On 13.01.15 14:53, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: Hi Mukund and thanks a lot for pointing that out! It is already

Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan.Lasche
Hi @all, I know that BIND has no feature to disable DNSSEC validation for selected Zones/Domains (when working as a recursor). One can only enable/disable DNSSEC validation globally per view (as a boolean on/off). I found that Microsoft's DNS Server has a feature to skip the validation

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi Stefen On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:35:26AM +0100, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: Some of the internal Domains of our customers will fail the proof-of-non-existence. While this is technically correct, we still need access to their internal Domain to do our business... So the current

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Stefan.Lasche
Hi Mukund and thanks a lot for pointing that out! It is already more than I was hoping for :) Regards, Stefan BIND will get support for negative trust anchors in 9.11, which will provide the feature that you seek. An implementation is now in the master branch.

Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-13 Thread Tony Finch
stefan.las...@t-systems.com stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote: I know that BIND has no feature to disable DNSSEC validation for selected Zones/Domains (when working as a recursor). BIND 9.11 will have negative trust anchors. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch d...@dotat.at http://dotat.at/ Fair