Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Thompson
On Apr 15 2010, Roy Badami wrote: Actually there *is* DNSSEC involved or the query would not have failed. Yes, sorry. I meant to imply that there is no DNSSEC involved beyond the verification of the covering NSEC that proves the lack of a DLV record. There is a bug in the BIND 9.7.0-P1 fixe

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-15 Thread Roy Badami
> Actually there *is* DNSSEC involved or the query would not have > failed. Yes, sorry. I meant to imply that there is no DNSSEC involved beyond the verification of the covering NSEC that proves the lack of a DLV record. > There is a bug in the BIND 9.7.0-P1 fixes that triggers this. The > fix

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20100414232855.gp1...@giles.gnomon.org.uk>, Roy Badami writes: > > Well, FWIW I upgraded to 9.7.0-P1 and tried enabling DLV again and > > I've seen no repeat of the DNSSEC name resolution issues so far; it's > > early days yet (only been running DLV for three days) but certainly > > lo

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-14 Thread Roy Badami
> > dig www.bbc.net.uk +cd > > How does the last query "work"? What I meant by that, in case it wasn't clear, was that setting the CD flag in the query caused it query to succeed, hence strongly suggesting that the cause of the failure in the original query was related to DNSSEC

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 04/14/10 16:28, Roy Badami wrote: Well, FWIW I upgraded to 9.7.0-P1 and tried enabling DLV again and I've seen no repeat of the DNSSEC name resolution issues so far; it's early days yet (only been running DLV for three days) but certainly looking promissing. I spoke too soon. I've now found

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-14 Thread Roy Badami
> Well, FWIW I upgraded to 9.7.0-P1 and tried enabling DLV again and > I've seen no repeat of the DNSSEC name resolution issues so far; it's > early days yet (only been running DLV for three days) but certainly > looking promissing. I spoke too soon. I've now found a query that (at least this eve

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-04-14 Thread Roy Badami
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:48:37PM +0100, I wrote: > A couple of weeks ago I upgraded my BINDs to 9.7.0 and enabled DLV. > > This is my first time attemting to validate DNSSEC; however, I've been > seeing intermittent failures to resolve domains under .org which have > been frequent enough to forc

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-30 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Roy Badami wrote: > > I have seen this happen when bind for some reason (eg mtu issues with > > vpn) cannot query for the DLV key at dlv.isc.org. I have not figured > > out the exact failure mode there. Check the logs to see errors for DNSKEY > > queries for dlv.isc.org to see if th

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > I have seen this happen when bind for some reason (eg mtu issues with > > vpn) cannot query for the DLV key at dlv.isc.org. I have not figured > > out the exact failure mode there. Check the logs to see errors for DNSKEY > > queries for dlv.isc.org to see if this is happening here too. However

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Roy Badami
> I have seen this happen when bind for some reason (eg mtu issues with > vpn) cannot query for the DLV key at dlv.isc.org. I have not figured > out the exact failure mode there. Check the logs to see errors for DNSKEY > queries for dlv.isc.org to see if this is happening here too. However in > tha

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Roy Badami
> > Yes, I agree freebsd.org is insecure, but I still want to be able to > > resolve it :-) > > The point was, you should not be getting DNSSEC-related errors from > a domain that is not secured. I disagree. In order for a validating resolver to resolve freebsd.org (or any other insecure domain

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Matthew Pounsett wrote: On 2010/03/28, at 18:48, Roy Badami wrote: configured). The queries are resulting in SERVFAIL, and I'm pretty sure the failures are DNSSEC-related, as when I've seen problems as they occur (dig failing from the command line) then repeating the quer

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 2010/03/29, at 06:04, Roy Badami wrote: > >> It looks to me like your example, freebsd.org, is insecure. > > Yes, I agree freebsd.org is insecure, but I still want to be able to > resolve it :-) The point was, you should not be getting DNSSEC-related errors from a domain that is not secu

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Roy Badami
> It looks to me like your example, freebsd.org, is insecure. Yes, I agree freebsd.org is insecure, but I still want to be able to resolve it :-) .org is signed with NSEC3 and (I think, but could be misremembering) is using opt-out. org is registered in DLV, so BIND still has to do some work

Re: Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-29 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 2010/03/28, at 18:48, Roy Badami wrote: > configured). The queries are resulting in SERVFAIL, and I'm pretty > sure the failures are DNSSEC-related, as when I've seen problems as > they occur (dig failing from the command line) then repeating the > query with the CD bit allowed it to succeed.

Intermittent failures resolving .org domains in BIND 9.7.0 with DLV enabled

2010-03-28 Thread Roy Badami
A couple of weeks ago I upgraded my BINDs to 9.7.0 and enabled DLV. This is my first time attemting to validate DNSSEC; however, I've been seeing intermittent failures to resolve domains under .org which have been frequent enough to force me to disable DLV again (hence effectively disabling DNSSEC