Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-07 Thread Elia Pinto
Il 04/ago/2014 18:33 "John Anderson" ha scritto: > > Greetings Bind-Users List, > > I've recently inherited a project that is going to require some method of automatically disseminating zone information to slave DNS servers running BIND. While searching for an industry standard method of accompli

RE: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-06 Thread John Anderson
> > Personally I'd like to extend UPDATE > > allow-addzone { acl; }; > allow-delzone { acl; }; > e.g. > nsupdate > new zone > server addresss [port] > key name:secret > [masters ] > [allow-query ] > [allow-transfer ] > [allow-update ]

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-06 Thread Brian Cuttler
Mark, That looks like a nice format for it. I'd still like to see named.conf mark some zones as uneditable via rdnc, just in case I want to allow a peer institution to add/remove zone where I'm the secondary, I want some mechanism to prevent them from accidently deleting zones I'm actually the

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Andrews
Personally I'd like to extend UPDATE allow-addzone { acl; }; allow-delzone { acl; }; e.g. nsupdate new zone server addresss [port] key name:secret [masters ] [allow-query ] [allow-transfer ] [allow-update ]

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 05.08.14 11:43, Brian Cuttler wrote: The slave trusts the master, for zone files, but creating a new zone? hmmm, when a meta-zone is signed by trusted key, why not? :-) using notifies and IXFR would be even more great... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Cuttler
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:41:14AM -0500, /dev/rob0 wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:31:31AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:21:07AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > > rndc addzone sounds like a very interesting tool, but > > > if you want an automated sync, will requir

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:31:31AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:21:07AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > rndc addzone sounds like a very interesting tool, but > > if you want an automated sync, will require something to > > read the source config of the master and then wr

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Cuttler
On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 09:21:07AM -0400, Brian Cuttler wrote: > > rndc addzone sounds like a very interesting tool, but > if you want an automated sync, will require something to > read the source config of the master and then write the > requisit slave zone information for the dns slave server(s

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Cuttler
rndc addzone sounds like a very interesting tool, but if you want an automated sync, will require something to read the source config of the master and then write the requisit slave zone information for the dns slave server(s). Offsite slave servers will require a lot of trust. Rsync solution fo

RE: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread John Anderson
>There's currently no supported way to perform in-band zone provisioning >via the DNS itself. I do have access to the metazone implementation >that Vixie wrote his paper about, and I can send it to you if you like, >but I'm not sure how useful you'll find it. There might also be some >intere

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/04/2014 09:33 AM, John Anderson wrote: I've recently inherited a project that is going to require some method of automatically disseminating zone information to slave DNS servers running BIND. The traditional solution to this problem is rsync, although I realize that's not very sexy. :)

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Evan Hunt Date: Monday, August 4, 2014 at 1:26 PM To: John Anderson Cc: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: Re: Metazones or Something Else? >> So to the best of your knowledge this functionality is still on drawing >> board, unless i

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread Evan Hunt
> So to the best of your knowledge this functionality is still on drawing > board, unless implemented out-of-band? (i.e. a perl script to parse > metazone.zone, and create /etc/named.d/*.conf files) Or run "rndc addzone". There's currently no supported way to perform in-band zone provisioning vi

RE: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread John Anderson
> Some such ideas have been discussed on various lists. See this thread for > example: > >http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsext/current/msg13475.html > > Mukund Mukund, So to the best of your knowledge this functionality is still on drawing board, unless implemented out-of-b

RE: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread John Anderson
ubject: Re: Metazones or Something Else? John, Zone information? As in the named.conf file and not the zone files? Brian On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 04:33:24PM +, John Anderson wrote: > Greetings Bind-Users List, > > I've recently inherited a project that is going to require some me

Re: Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread Mukund Sivaraman
Hi John On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 04:33:24PM +, John Anderson wrote: > Has this metazone idea gained any traction? Is there a distributable > implementation? If not, has another technology emerged which > essentially injects restart-persistent zone SOA record information > into BIND so that it

Metazones or Something Else?

2014-08-04 Thread John Anderson
Greetings Bind-Users List, I've recently inherited a project that is going to require some method of automatically disseminating zone information to slave DNS servers running BIND. While searching for an industry standard method of accomplishing this task, I came across this rather dated docum