Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-09 Thread John Wobus
...if anyone has specific thoughts on how to make this sort of thing easier in BIND -- even just at the level of boy, it irritates me that I can't make BIND do X -- such comments will fall on welcoming ears. I agree that it would be nice if effort were made into making flipping masters

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-09 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 5/9/2014 3:01 PM, John Wobus wrote: ...if anyone has specific thoughts on how to make this sort of thing easier in BIND -- even just at the level of boy, it irritates me that I can't make BIND do X -- such comments will fall on welcoming ears. I agree that it would be nice if effort were

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-08 Thread Dave Warren
On 2014-05-07 15:06, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: OTOH, the idea of multi-master is intriguing.the only down side I see, is hat I have one really powerful server for my current master(Sun Fire X4170)and my other servers are weak leftoversjust passed EOL last year. And,

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-08 Thread Tony Finch
A few thoughts... The DNS protocol is already pretty good at replicating zone data - see for instance John Wingenbach's message in which he describes how their deployment gradually converged on a fairly standard architecture :-) I think multi-master makes most sense if the primary master uses

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-08 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 2014-05-07 15:06, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: OTOH, the idea of multi-master is intriguing.the only down side I see, is hat I have one really powerful server for my current master(Sun Fire X4170)and my other servers are weak leftoversjust passed EOL last year. And,

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-08 Thread John Wingenbach
I wouldn't say we migrated in that direction due to anything other then lack of good options. What BIND is missing is the concept of an update master. Augment BIND with the following: * Each master is aware of the other masters. * One master is defined as an update master (rndc control?)

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-08 Thread Dave Warren
On 2014-05-08 07:13, Barry S. Finkel wrote: On 2014-05-07 15:06, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: OTOH, the idea of multi-master is intriguing.the only down side I see, is hat I have one really powerful server for my current master(Sun Fire X4170)and my other servers are weak

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-07 Thread John Wingenbach
I run a multi-master environment. We have 3 data centers which are considered to be able to run even though the rest are down. Initially, we ran our masters with the same exact configurations on each. One of the data centers was administratively defined as being the 'update master'. From

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-07 Thread fddi
I run bind multi master on 5 different site. my solution is bind-dlz with galeraDB backed. we are very satisfied by this configuration and works flawlessy until now. Rick On 5/7/14 8:11 PM, John Wingenbach wrote: I run a multi-master environment. We have 3 data centers which are considered

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-07 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
On 05/06/14 13:39, Evan Hunt wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 06:20:11PM +, Baird, Josh wrote: Hi, For those of you who operate at multiple sites or datacenters, are you doing any HA for your BIND masters? Ideally, we would have a master in each datacenter; maybe not an active one, but

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-07 Thread Peter Andreev
Well, we use two masters in different locations, w/o DLZ. Files for signed zones are being generated from databases and uploaded to servers. What we need here - is propagating of DDNS plus periodical synchronizing of zones, journals etc. Regarding zone templates - I'm using it with NSD4 and I'm

Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-06 Thread Baird, Josh
Hi, For those of you who operate at multiple sites or datacenters, are you doing any HA for your BIND masters? Ideally, we would have a master in each datacenter; maybe not an active one, but one that is standing by in case your primary master becomes unavailable. Do you have multiple

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-06 Thread Marty Lee
Josh, we use multiple masters across multiple hosts, with mysql as a backend for the zone data. Each DNS server is a master and has it’s own local mysql DB. Each mysql database is then kept in ‘sync’ using mysql replication over a VPN link from a single (private) admin host. The single admin

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-06 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 06:20:11PM +, Baird, Josh wrote: Hi, For those of you who operate at multiple sites or datacenters, are you doing any HA for your BIND masters? Ideally, we would have a master in each datacenter; maybe not an active one, but one that is standing by in case your

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-06 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/05/2014 19:39, Evan Hunt wrote: I don't want to influence the conversation here by saying too much about the ideas we've had so far, but I wanted to say: if anyone has specific thoughts on how to make this sort of thing easier in BIND -- even just at the level of boy, it irritates me that

Re: Multi-master (HA)

2014-05-06 Thread Alan Clegg
On 5/6/14, 3:41 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: I could expand on the idea if people don't think it's too insane ;o) I suspect it has all kinds of caveats I haven't thought of, however. The concept of a meta-zone containing config data is something that I discussed with a number of ISC staff over the