Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:01:47PM +1000, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote a message of 56 lines which said: It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named will complain if both types are not present. Then, named is now wrong, since RFC 6686.

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote a message of 28 lines which said: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote a message of 28 lines which said: This was discussed here already, [...] The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20130724093737.ga12...@nic.fr, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:01:47PM +1000, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote a message of 56 lines which said: It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named will complain if both types are not present.

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread SM
Hi Dan, At 03:07 24-07-2013, McDonald, Dan wrote: SPF RR types are already standards track - see RFC 6652. An informational rfc warning that the standard is not being adopted should be seen as a call to fix the admins, not discard the standard. The SPF specification is not on the Standards

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20130724094623.gb12...@nic.fr, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote a message of 28 lines which said: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
In article mailman.881.1374508134.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: No, it does not. If a mail gets delivered to address, which is sending it further (forwarding it), the envelope sender has to be changed, because it's not the original sender who

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-23 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 7/23/13 7:36 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: In article mailman.881.1374508134.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: No, it does not. If a mail gets delivered to address, which is sending it further (forwarding it), the envelope sender has to be changed,

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 02:51 -0400, Jason Hellenthal wrote: It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT SPF ... You now do ... SPF SPF ... Mark Andrews wrote: No. It has a legacy SPF TXT record. It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named will complain if

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Basically a SPF record type in place that's new but you could carry both for new and older clients. -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jul 22, 2013, at 0:48, SH Development listacco...@starionline.com wrote: I just started noticing

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Jason Hellenthal wrote: It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT SPF ... You now do ... SPF SPF ... Caution! The SPF record type is near enough dead. See in particular RFC6686 paragraph 5.6; paragraph 6.2; and Appendix A point 4. -- 73, Ged.

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Jason Hellenthal wrote: It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT SPF ... You now do ... SPF SPF ... On 22.07.13 11:26, G.W. Haywood wrote: Caution! The SPF record type is near enough dead. See in particular RFC6686 paragraph 5.6; paragraph 6.2; and Appendix A

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry S. Finkel
This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. It is not Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that SPF breaks forwarding. SPF *DOES* break

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.881.1374508134.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 7/22/2013 11:17 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. On 22.07.13 08:50, Barry S.

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Barry S. Finkel bsfin...@att.net wrote: On 7/22/2013 11:17 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 08:50 -0500, Barry S. Finkel wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those spf breaks forwarding FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. It is not Fear, Uncertainty,

New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread SH Development
I just started noticing these in my log: 7/21/13 11:33:13 PM named[355] 21-Jul-2013 23:33:13.646 general: warning: zone domain.com/IN: 'domain.com' found SPF/TXT record but no SPF/SPF record found, add matching type SPF record The zone does have an SPF record. I'm not sure I