Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-08 Thread Jan Buchholz
Thanks @all, sorry i was out of office yesterday. I'll discuss the issue this week on the german Linux Tag in Berlin. What your meaning off firewalls, who looks into packets and block them if the filter don´t know a flag. First i´ve fixed the problem with edns no; Jan

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:26 AM, Jan Buchholz wrote: Thanks @all, sorry i was out of office yesterday. I'll discuss the issue this week on the german Linux Tag in Berlin. What your meaning off firewalls, who looks into packets and block them if the filter don´t know a flag. Some high security

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Andrews
In message d7c8ada3-f213-4ae9-9fbe-8d613d97d...@kumari.net, Warren Kumari wri tes: On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:26 AM, Jan Buchholz wrote: Thanks @all, sorry i was out of office yesterday. I'll discuss the issue this week on the german Linux Tag in Berlin. What your meaning off firewalls, who

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Evan Hunt
The DO bit is always set whenever the server includes an EDNS OPT RR (I thought it was based on the specification, but don't remember which sentence of which RFC says so). I was taken aback to read this, because I remembered seeing code in named that clears the DO bit if dnssec-enable is no:

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4c09c562.7030...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: Ok, so my guess as to ISC's motivations was pretty much on the mark, and speaking with my Guy who loves the Internet and wants to see things work better for everybody hat on, I am totally in agreement. That's why I said I

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Joe Baptista
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: With my business hat on though I can see at least 2 possible use cases for DO=0. The first being related to this thread, I can't/won't fix/remove the firewall today, I just want my resolver to work. The hapless user in

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/04/10 21:58, Paul Vixie wrote: Doug Bartondo...@dougbarton.us writes: With my business hat on though I can see at least 2 possible use cases for DO=0. The first being related to this thread, I can't/won't fix/remove the firewall today, I just want my resolver to work. it works. it's

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/05/10 07:22, Mark Andrews wrote: In message4c09c562.7030...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: The resolver works. It figures out that it can't make the new style queries and falls back to the old style queries. If the user is really worried they can turn off EDNS and with that DO.

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 201006060107.o5617ep4091...@drugs.dv.isc.org, Mark Andrews writes: In message 4c0aad2a.4010...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: On 06/05/10 07:22, Mark Andrews wrote: In message4c09c562.7030...@dougbarton.us, Doug Barton writes: The resolver works. It figures out that

disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Jan Buchholz
hello together, how i can disable dnssec in the bind resolver ? My firewall don´t let packets with D0 flag through. I´ve tried 'dnssec-enable no;' , but this don´t fix the problem. Thanks, Jan ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Jan Buchholz wrote: how i can disable dnssec in the bind resolver ? My firewall don´t let packets with D0 flag through. I´ve tried 'dnssec-enable no;' , but this don´t fix the problem. I believe that only disables *serving* DNSSEC records. I think you want 'dnssec

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Jan Buchholz
2010/6/4 Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Jan Buchholz wrote: how i can disable dnssec in the bind resolver ? My firewall don´t let packets with D0 flag through. I´ve tried 'dnssec-enable no;' , but this don´t fix the problem. I believe that only disables *serving

RE: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Lightner, Jeff
: disable dnssec in bind resolver 2010/6/4 Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Jan Buchholz wrote: how i can disable dnssec in the bind resolver ? My firewall don´t let packets with D0 flag through. I´ve tried 'dnssec-enable no;' , but this don´t fix the problem. I believe

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Evan Hunt
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 05:36:21PM +0200, Jan Buchholz wrote: i mean the parameter is the default. Actually, since 9.5.0, the default has been dnssec-validation yes. (Note, however, that DNSSEC validation doesn't occur unless the resolver has a trust anchor configured. So you there has to be a

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Evan Hunt
If it doesn't, though, try edns no. You can't have a DO bit if you don't have a place to put one. This seems a bit like my left leg hurts, so i stabbed my right leg. Exactly. Now you aren't lopsided. -- Evan Hunt -- e...@isc.org Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread R. Kevin Oberman
, 2010 9:20 am Subject: Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver To: Evan Hunt e...@isc.org CC: bind-users@lists.isc.org On Fri, 4 Jun 2010, Evan Hunt wrote: I'm pretty sure dnssec-enable no does suppress the DO bit. If it doesn't, that's probably a bug. Yeah, I thought the default changed when all

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Clegg
On 6/4/2010 1:52 PM, R. Kevin Oberman wrote: First, dns-validation is 'off' by default in all BIND versions. It's dnssec-enable that started defaulting to 'yes'. No, it isn't. The only reason that dnssec-validation appears off is that without trust anchors, it doesn't do anything. Insert a

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:50:26 +0200, Jan Buchholz 96de...@googlemail.com wrote: how i can disable dnssec in the bind resolver ? My firewall don´t let packets with D0 flag through. I´ve tried 'dnssec-enable no;' , but this don´t fix the problem. I believe that only disables *serving

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Evan Hunt
First, dns-validation is 'off' by default in all BIND versions. It's dnssec-enable that started defaulting to 'yes'. Correct in the sense that there are no configured trust anchors, so validation doesn't happen. Incorrect in the sense that the dnssec-validation option *is* turned on by

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/04/10 11:19, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: The DO bit is always set whenever the server includes an EDNS OPT RR (I thought it was based on the specification, but don't remember which sentence of which RFC says so). Given that concern about whether or not it's a good idea to always send

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Paul Vixie
Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us writes: I have a guess at why ISC would want to enable it by default, and even in the presence of an option to turn it off I'm still Ok with that default. But if it's not a standards requirement to have it on, giving the admin a choice would be a welcome thing.

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 06/04/10 19:40, Paul Vixie wrote: Doug Bartondo...@dougbarton.us writes: I have a guess at why ISC would want to enable it by default, and even in the presence of an option to turn it off I'm still Ok with that default. But if it's not a standards requirement to have it on, giving the

Re: disable dnssec in bind resolver

2010-06-04 Thread Paul Vixie
Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us writes: On 06/04/10 19:40, Paul Vixie wrote: ... unless a new IETF RFC comes along and disambiguates the meaning of DO such that it's only to be set if the requestor thinks it has a reasonable shot at validating the resulting metadata, i expect BIND to keep