slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
2012/3/29 RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN r...@computerking.ca Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-MailSurveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
2012/3/29 Peter Andreev andreev.pe...@gmail.com 2012/3/29 RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN r...@computerking.ca Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-MailSurveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP Sorry for previous message, I suggest you to update BIND. -- AP ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external : loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external : sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN ': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external : Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external ' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of ' jodygamracy.com/IN/external ' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901) 29-Mar-2012 08:44:09.093 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#43819: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended 29-Mar-2012 02:41:45.829 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.072 secs (0 bytes/sec) I get lots of these 0 bytes transfers everytime i try to edit a zone file now they keep poping up and zones never get updated on the slave it just keeps trying and getting 0 bytes ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
query issue
Hi hoping someone with more DNS experience then me can help me figure out this strange issue. I have a domain kingstonmass.org that I'm having problems resolving anything for from one NS server but it work from the other. The issue seems to be when I query for kingstonmass.org I get stuck on the org servers however this only happens for that domain all other .org domains that I tried have worked. Here is an example from tcpdump 11:03:39.305895 IP ns1.frv.ma.meganet.net.43514 c0.org.afilias-nst.org.domain: 54553 [1au] A? www.dreamphotos.org. (48) 11:03:39.343982 IP c0.org.afilias-nst.org.domain ns1.frv.ma.meganet.net.43514: 54553- 0/6/1 (591) However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it eventually times out. 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain: 54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34) Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and the NS servers for the domain in question. The odd thing is with host I can see the NS records for the domain but with dig it doesn't work. I'm not sure what the difference is between the two commands. Also using host I cant get an MX listing. I'm hoping someone has an idea. Thanks, Paul [root@ns1 ~]# host -v -t ns kingstonmass.org Trying kingstonmass.org ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 51371 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;kingstonmass.org. IN NS ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 1932IN NS ns2.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 1932IN NS ns1.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 1932IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.gis.net.561 IN A 208.218.130.9 ns2.gis.net.561 IN A 208.218.130.10 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 83692 IN A 216.69.185.34 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 83692 IN 2607:f208:206::22 Received 190 bytes from 209.213.64.2#53 in 1 ms ; DiG 9.2.4 +trace +time=300 kingstonmass.org ns ;; global options: printcmd . 515761 IN NS e.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS g.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS f.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS j.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS l.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS b.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS i.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS h.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS a.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS c.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS m.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS k.root-servers.net. . 515761 IN NS d.root-servers.net. ;; Received 512 bytes from 209.213.64.2#53(209.213.64.2) in 1 ms org.172800 IN NS a0.org.afilias-nst.info. org.172800 IN NS a2.org.afilias-nst.info. org.172800 IN NS b0.org.afilias-nst.org. org.172800 IN NS b2.org.afilias-nst.org. org.172800 IN NS c0.org.afilias-nst.info. org.172800 IN NS d0.org.afilias-nst.org. ;; Received 439 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(e.root-servers.net) in 11 ms ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: query issue
On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote: Hi Paul, However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it eventually times out. 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain: 54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34) Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and the NS servers for the domain in question. I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address. Do you have any firewalls or router ACLs blocking DNS back to IPv6 addresses in your network? I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain. Regards, Anand Buddhdev RIPE NCC ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
RE: query issue
Looking further into this I do have an ipv6 on that server, a 6to4 ip (which I didn't configure and I have to figure out how it got there). However I notice sometimes the query goes out as ipv6 6to4 ip and sometimes as an ipv4 but I'm not sure why that is if anyone can explain why some queries are sourced from the 6to4 ipv6 instead of the ipv4 ip that would be great. Looks like when it goes out as a ipv6 6to4 ip I'm not getting a returned answers which makes sense because I have no relay routers for ipv6 packets coming in. paul -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Anand Buddhdev Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:46 AM To: Paul A Cc: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: query issue On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote: Hi Paul, However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it eventually times out. 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain: 54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34) Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and the NS servers for the domain in question. I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address. Do you have any firewalls or router ACLs blocking DNS back to IPv6 addresses in your network? I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain. Regards, Anand Buddhdev RIPE NCC ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901) 29-Mar-2012 08:44:09.093 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#43819: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended 29-Mar-2012 02:41:45.829 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.072 secs (0 bytes/sec) I get lots of these 0 bytes transfers everytime i try to edit a zone file now they keep poping up and zones never get updated on the slave it just keeps trying and getting 0 bytes ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- Best regards Sten Carlsen No improvements come from shouting: MALE BOVINE MANURE!!! ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: query issue
On 3/29/2012 11:45 AM, Anand Buddhdev wrote: On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote: Hi Paul, However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it eventually times out. 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain: 54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34) Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and the NS servers for the domain in question. I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address. Specifically, a 6to4 address, with 198.144.140.198 (otherwise known as c690:8cc6) as the IPv4 endpoint of the tunnel. This was originally specified in RFC 3056 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3056.txt), but more recently there has been an informational RFC (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6343.txt) enumerating the many problems associated with 6to4, and casting doubt on its long-term viability as an IPv4-to-IPv6 transition mechanism - Kevin ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: query issue
At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote: I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain. From mns01.domaincontrol.com: ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns02.domaincontrol.com. kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer. Regards, -sm ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
OK but how do I correct the issue Sent from my Nexus 1 Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk wrote: It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901) 29-Mar-2012 08:44:09.093 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#43819: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended 29-Mar-2012 02:41:45.829 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.072 secs (0 bytes/sec) I get lots of these 0 bytes transfers everytime i try to edit a zone file now they keep poping up and zones never get updated on the slave it just keeps trying and getting 0 bytes ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- Best regards Sten Carlsen No improvements come from shouting: MALE BOVINE MANURE!!! ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: A large number of ANY query type queries
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 04:08:33PM +0800, ShanyiWan w...@114.com.cn wrote a message of 104 lines which said: On the DNS server, a large number of ANY type queries occur,why? The same IP address, produced a large number of requests within a very short period of time. Can I block these IPs? Many technical details at https://www.dns-oarc.net/wiki/mitigating-dns-denial-of-service-attacks ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
RE: query issue
Aside from the NS issue the problem was def related to having an 6to4 ipv6 address on the eth0 interface of my name server. Once I removed that ipv6 ip all is working well. Which leaves me with some questions, Does bind try on an ipv6 addr 1st? I suspect it does. The name servers for the domain below on the whois are ns2/ns1/gis.net so I should have been querying those servers which don't have ipv6 addr however they have an NS record in the zone pointing to mns01.domaincontrol.com which has an ipv6 addr but it's not listed on the whois output. Basically im not sure why my queries for kingstonmass.org where being sourced from an ipv6. ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS ns2.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS ns1.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665 IN A 216.69.185.34 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665 IN 2607:f208:206::22 thanks Paul -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of SM Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:14 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: query issue At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote: I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain. From mns01.domaincontrol.com: ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns02.domaincontrol.com. kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer. Regards, -sm ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
First find out if that IS the case: on master, is SOA serial updated when FILE serial is (after reload)? If so, no problem. If not, chroot is oneof the usual culprits, you update file in /var/named/..., but bind loads file in /var/named/chroot/var/named/data/... So in your filesystem, find ALL zone files, check which are used by bind and which you update. This is not rocket science, just normal file management. Usually the file in /var/named/... is a link to the file in /var/named/chroot/var/named/... - maybe you managed to break that link by editing the wrong file, go searchin your own file structure. On 29/03/12 20:39, Computer King wrote: OK but how do I correct the issue Sent from my Nexus 1 Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk wrote: It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901) 29-Mar-2012 08:44:09.093 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#43819: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended 29-Mar-2012 02:41:45.829 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.072 secs (0 bytes/sec) I get lots of these 0 bytes transfers everytime i try to edit a zone file now they keep poping up and zones never get updated on the slave it just keeps trying
Re: query issue
In message 012901cd0de7$fcf45590$f6dd00b0$@net, Paul A writes: Aside from the NS issue the problem was def related to having an 6to4 ipv6 address on the eth0 interface of my name server. Once I removed that ipv6 ip all is working well. Which leaves me with some questions, Does bind try on an ipv6 addr 1st? I suspect it does. All things being equal, yes it will try IPv6 first. However most of the time there is some history and it will make other decisions. The name servers for the domain below on the whois are ns2/ns1/gis.net so I should have been querying those servers which don't have ipv6 addr however they have an NS record in the zone pointing to mns01.domaincontrol.com which has an ipv6 addr but it's not listed on the whois output. Basically im not sure why my queries for kingstonmass.org where being sourced from an ipv6. The queries are sent to that address because named has learnt that mns01.domaincontrol.com has a IPv6 address. mns01.domaincontrol.com isn't responding to me over IPv6 either. ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS ns2.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS ns1.gis.net. kingstonmass.org. 3387IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665 IN A 216.69.185.34 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665 IN 2607:f208:206::22 thanks Paul -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of SM Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:14 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: Re: query issue At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote: I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain. From mns01.domaincontrol.com: ;; ANSWER SECTION: kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns02.domaincontrol.com. kingstonmass.org. 3600IN NS mns01.domaincontrol.com. ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer. Regards, -sm ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
In message odtaorjx8ward06i15qkp0jy.1333046377...@email.android.com, Computer King writes: OK but how do I correct the issue Sent from my Nexus 1 First of all you need to find out what the issue is. One way to do this is to simulate what the slave is doing. Use dig to make a ixfr request from the slave and report what it returns to the list. If you are using TSIG then also specify that on the command like. dig ixfr=slave-serial zone @master Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk wrote: It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901) 29-Mar-2012 08:44:09.093 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#43819: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended 29-Mar-2012 02:41:45.829 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.072 secs (0 bytes/sec) I get lots of these 0 bytes transfers everytime i try to edit a zone file now they keep poping up and zones never get updated on the slave it just keeps trying and getting 0 bytes ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscri
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
Not sure what serial to use the one on the master or the one on the slave so i did both here is the serial that is on the master note this command has been run on the slave. dig ixfr=2012032802 computerking.ca @ns1.canmail.org ; DiG 9.7.0-P1 ixfr=2012032802 computerking.ca @ns1.canmail.org ;; global options: +cmd computerking.ca.3600IN SOA ns1.computerking.ca. admin.computerking.ca. 2012022801 1200 120 2419200 38400 ;; Query time: 36 msec ;; SERVER: 204.244.122.132#53(204.244.122.132) ;; WHEN: Thu Mar 29 18:45:48 2012 ;; XFR size: 1 records (messages 1, bytes 79) here is the serial that the slave is using also this command was run on the slave dig ixfr=2012022801 computerking.ca @ns1.canmail.org ; DiG 9.7.0-P1 ixfr=2012022801 computerking.ca @ns1.canmail.org ;; global options: +cmd computerking.ca.3600IN SOA ns1.computerking.ca. admin.computerking.ca. 2012022801 1200 120 2419200 38400 ;; Query time: 35 msec ;; SERVER: 204.244.122.132#53(204.244.122.132) ;; WHEN: Thu Mar 29 18:52:48 2012 ;; XFR size: 1 records (messages 1, bytes 79) here is an exept from the zone file that keeps appearing on the slave $ORIGIN . $TTL 3600 ; 1 hour computerking.ca IN SOA ns1.computerking.ca. admin.computerking.ca. ( 2012022801 ; serial 1200 ; refresh (20 minutes - Original Message - From: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org To: Computer King r...@computerking.ca Cc: Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk, bind-us...@isc.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March, 2012 4:21:11 PM Subject: Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files In message odtaorjx8ward06i15qkp0jy.1333046377...@email.android.com, Computer King writes: OK but how do I correct the issue Sent from my Nexus 1 First of all you need to find out what the issue is. One way to do this is to simulate what the slave is doing. Use dig to make a ixfr request from the slave and report what it returns to the list. If you are using TSIG then also specify that on the command like. dig ixfr=slave-serial zone @master Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk wrote: It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external: Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales
Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files
I think what you are asking is if i update a file (changing a serial #) on the master does it get updated on the master? if this is the question then yes the file on the master updates correctly. So i do not think i have to go searchin my file system but i might just to make sure as both machines do run chroot - Original Message - From: Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk To: Computer King r...@computerking.ca Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sent: Thursday, 29 March, 2012 3:59:25 PM Subject: Re: slave not updating or creating ofd zone files First find out if that IS the case: on master, is SOA serial updated when FILE serial is (after reload)? If so, no problem. If not, chroot is oneof the usual culprits, you update file in /var/named/..., but bind loads file in /var/named/chroot/var/named/data/... So in your filesystem, find ALL zone files, check which are used by bind and which you update. This is not rocket science, just normal file management. Usually the file in /var/named/... is a link to the file in /var/named/chroot/var/named/... - maybe you managed to break that link by editing the wrong file, go searchin your own file structure. On 29/03/12 20:39, Computer King wrote: OK but how do I correct the issue Sent from my Nexus 1 Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk wrote: It has sometimes been seen that the files that are updated are not the files actually loaded, this could be such a case? On 29/03/12 10:58, RYAN M. vAN GINNEKEN wrote: blockquote Hello all i have what is to me a very strange bind 9 master slave transfer issue. When i update a zone file on the master the file updates correctly the notifies are sent and every thing seems to work perfectly except it transfers 0 bytes to the slave. Checking the slave confirms that indeed thier was no transfer and that the slave is still serving the old zone, i have gon as far as to completely delete the zone files from the slave and restart bind to my suprise it puts back all the old files. What is going on? Below is an example of one of the files that is not updating correctly there are many and some of file I have updated more recently are not even showing up in the logs of the server. On the server Ubuntu 8.04 LTS running BIND 9.4.2-P2.1 chrooted 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.461 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external : loaded serial 2012031501 29-Mar-2012 06:03:39.614 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external : sending notifies (serial 2012031501) 29-Mar-2012 06:03:41.761 xfer-out: info: client 96.51.192.233#33074: view external: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN http://jodygamracy.com/IN ': IXFR ended On the slave Ubuntu 10.04 LTS BIND 9.7.0-P1 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.666 general: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external : Transfer started. 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.706 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external ' from 204.244.122.132#53: connected using 96.51.192.233#33074 29-Mar-2012 00:03:41.782 xfer-in: info: transfer of 'jodygamracy.com/IN/external http://jodygamracy.com/IN/external ' from 204.244.122.132#53: Transfer completed: 0 messages, 1 records, 0 bytes, 0.076 secs (0 bytes/sec) As a side not i have both machines firewalled, but have port 53 open on both machines, and have ports set using this in these lines in the named.conf. file query-source address * port 53; transfer-source * port 53; notify-source * port 53; and see this in the dameon logs /etc/named.conf:9: using specific query-source port suppresses port randomization and can be insecure. Computer King CaN-Mail Surveillance King http://computerking.ca http://canmail.org http://surveillanceking.net Surveillance - Sales Service - Hosting Backup Internet Based Surveillance Systems Custom Service Pac kages Secure IMAP Email - Automated Remote Backups - Photo Blogs - Online ERP and Accounting Packages ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users Enlarge your serial! -- AP I've tried that had this problem for awhile that is why serial was not dated today just picked a random zone file anyways i updated the serial with todays date and still get the same behaviour. Strange but the times are messed up i checked the time/date on both machines they are very similar what is with the wierd log times? . 29-Mar-2012 08:44:06.883 notify: info: zone jodygamracy.com/IN/external: sending notifies (serial 2012032901)