Re: KSK signing zone records
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 02:13:35PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > The rules for what get signed by what are per algorithm. Additionally the > SEP bit is hint to the signer as to what is desired. Named has controls to > say whether to pay attention to the SEP bit or not. Additionally it will > override those controls to pay attention to the SEP but if it believes that > the zone won’t be correctly signed if it paid attention to the SEP bit. > > People have created zones where one algorithm has keys with and without the > SEP > bit for one algorithm but for a second algorithm there are only keys with > (without) > the SEP bit. If the signer has been told to honour the SEP bit then for the > first > algorithm it will be honoured and for the second algorithm the instruction > will > be overridden. > > See dnssec-dnskey-kskonly, update-check-ksk and the keys sub-clause of > dnssec-policy. Thanks. cheers, raf ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: KSK signing zone records
Named will continually re-sign parts of the zone as the RRSIGs for a RRset fall due for replacement. Named looks at which keys are in the active state to determine along with the afore mentioned controls to work out which DNSKEYs will be used to re-sign the RRset. If in the past you only had one key type and you now have two, different keys may be used to re-sign the RRset. If you changed policy in named.conf, the new policy will be implemented as the RRSIGs are re-generated. It looks like you told named to re-sign the zone when there was only one type of DNSKEY key record (or you where unlucky enough for named to check the available keys whiles there was only one active key present) resulting in named overriding the policy in named.conf. Mark > On 1 Sep 2021, at 03:44, Timothy A. Holtzen via bind-users > wrote: > > I'm using Algorithm 8 RSA/SHA-256, and Algorithm 14 ECDSA/SHA-384. I > have one RSA KSK and one RSA ZSK. In addition I have two ECDSA KSK and > two ECDSA ZSK. The RSA KSK seems perfectly happy to sign the ECDSA > ZSKs. And both the RSA and ECDSA ZSKs seem to be singing records > correctly. It just seems to be the two newer ECDSA KSKs that instead of > signing the ZSKs are singing the domain records directly. > > Even more perplexing is that one of the domains seems to have fixed > itself. Now all the KSKs for that domain are singing the ZSKs and the > ZSKs are signing the domain records. But I've still got a couple of > other domains where it is doing it wrong. Is there some kind of timeout > or maintenance that gets run automatically that might have fixed the > issue? I've tried running an "rndc sign" command on the domains several > times. > > Timothy A. Holtzen > Campus Network Administrator > Nebraska Wesleyan University > Public PGP ECC Curve 25519 Key: 11A2 3FDB AD70 12CA D77D C7DD DFFB 7662 24E6 > C30D > Old Public PGP RSA key: CFB4 3AE8 B726 DEBF 00D9 CCFC 426E 76AF DABC B3D7 > > On 8/30/21 17:40, raf via bind-users wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Chris Buxton >> wrote: >> >>> What algorithm(s) are you using for ZSK and KSK? If they’re not the >>> same algorithm, then both will be used to sign the entire zone. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chris Buxton >> Just out of curiosity, why is that? >> Isn't having the KSK sign the ZSK enough? >> What difference does the nature of the thing >> being signed make? >> >> cheers, >> raf >> >> ___ >> Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to >> unsubscribe from this list >> >> ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. >> Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. >> >> >> bind-users mailing list >> bind-users@lists.isc.org >> https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. > Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. > > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: KSK signing zone records
I'm using Algorithm 8 RSA/SHA-256, and Algorithm 14 ECDSA/SHA-384. I have one RSA KSK and one RSA ZSK. In addition I have two ECDSA KSK and two ECDSA ZSK. The RSA KSK seems perfectly happy to sign the ECDSA ZSKs. And both the RSA and ECDSA ZSKs seem to be singing records correctly. It just seems to be the two newer ECDSA KSKs that instead of signing the ZSKs are singing the domain records directly. Even more perplexing is that one of the domains seems to have fixed itself. Now all the KSKs for that domain are singing the ZSKs and the ZSKs are signing the domain records. But I've still got a couple of other domains where it is doing it wrong. Is there some kind of timeout or maintenance that gets run automatically that might have fixed the issue? I've tried running an "rndc sign" command on the domains several times. Timothy A. Holtzen Campus Network Administrator Nebraska Wesleyan University Public PGP ECC Curve 25519 Key: 11A2 3FDB AD70 12CA D77D C7DD DFFB 7662 24E6 C30D Old Public PGP RSA key: CFB4 3AE8 B726 DEBF 00D9 CCFC 426E 76AF DABC B3D7 On 8/30/21 17:40, raf via bind-users wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Chris Buxton > wrote: > >> What algorithm(s) are you using for ZSK and KSK? If they’re not the >> same algorithm, then both will be used to sign the entire zone. >> >> Regards, >> Chris Buxton > Just out of curiosity, why is that? > Isn't having the KSK sign the ZSK enough? > What difference does the nature of the thing > being signed make? > > cheers, > raf > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe > from this list > > ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. > Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. > > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
