Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread rams
Hi,

I have set up data as follows in bind.
Zone: rameshops5526old.com

maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.

Queried against bind and get the reposne as follows

[r...@stulcqacustbind2 recursive_enabled]# dig @10.31.145.194
maint.rameshops5526old.com.
;  DiG 9.6.1-P3  @10.31.145.194 maint.rameshops5526old.com.
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16855
;; flags: qr *aa* rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;maint.rameshops5526old.com.IN  A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 10.31.145.194#53(10.31.145.194)
;; WHEN: Tue Aug 24 06:26:31 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 195
Here AA flag is returning is it correct? because domain 
global.rameshops5526old.com.  delegated so we should not return AA flag
right? Please clarify me.

Thanks  Regards,
Ramesh
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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread Mark Andrews

In message aanlktinrcdo9eetozjb4xsxcp309jaedtza7wxfeh...@mail.gmail.com, rams 
writes:
 Hi,
 
 I have set up data as follows in bind.
 Zone: rameshops5526old.com
 
 maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
 maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.
 
 Queried against bind and get the reposne as follows
 
 [r...@stulcqacustbind2 recursive_enabled]# dig @10.31.145.194
 maint.rameshops5526old.com.
 ;  DiG 9.6.1-P3  @10.31.145.194 maint.rameshops5526old.com.
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16855
 ;; flags: qr *aa* rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;maint.rameshops5526old.com.IN  A
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
 maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
 ;; Query time: 2 msec
 ;; SERVER: 10.31.145.194#53(10.31.145.194)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Aug 24 06:26:31 2010
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 195
 Here AA flag is returning is it correct? because domain 
 global.rameshops5526old.com.  delegated so we should not return AA flag
 right? Please clarify me.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Ramesh

aa indicates that the server is authoritative for the CNAME record.

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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread rams
Hi ,
Please tell me the correct answer for the below set up:

*Zone: rameshops5526old.com
*
maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.

dig @localhost *maint.rameshops5526old.com A*

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Thanks  Regards,
Ramesh
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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.08.10 12:48, rams wrote:
 Please tell me the correct answer for the below set up:

this is not set up, this is the answer.

 *Zone: rameshops5526old.com
 *
 maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
 maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
 rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
 global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.
 
 dig @localhost *maint.rameshops5526old.com A*

what do you want? What problem do you have?
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Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread rams
 Hi

When we have data as follows queried domain maint.rameshops5526old.com.
against bind and my own resolver. Bind and my resolver response are same but
only mismatching with flags. bind is returning AA flag but my resolver is
not returning AA flag. in this case wihcih is correct bind or my resolver?

Zone: rameshops5526old.com

maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN  CNAME
maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  NS  dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  b.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 IN NS  c.ns.nsatc.net.
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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.08.10 17:48, rams wrote:
 When we have data as follows queried domain maint.rameshops5526old.com.
 against bind and my own resolver. Bind and my resolver response are same but
 only mismatching with flags. bind is returning AA flag but my resolver is
 not returning AA flag. in this case wihcih is correct bind or my resolver?

yes.
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query-source does not work for forwarded queries

2010-08-24 Thread Gordon A. Lang

The query-source option does not work for forwarded queries per wireshark
with BIND 9.4-ESV-R2 on Solaris 10 as well as AIX 5.3.

If I remove the forward only option from named.conf, then the query-source
does take effect for the recursive queries (but of course the queries fail
because I need them to be forwarded to the target that is accessible through
the firewall).

With the forward only option, the forwarded queries pick up their source ip
address as if there were a secret hidden setting of forward-source * 
option.

Is this a known bug?
Is there a work around?

Right now I need to open up the firewall to permit a long changing list of
source addresses to reach the forwarding target, but it would be more
appropriate to allow only the short stable list of service addresses for the
inside resolvers (made portable by use of host routing rather than ARP).

Thanks in advance.

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caching of server fail BIND9

2010-08-24 Thread Len Conrad

We just had a problem where a BIND9 running on our postfix MX 
451-rejected-as-unknown-domain all msgs from @sender.domain for 9 days. 

rndc flush allowed the domain to be resolved immediately and its messages 
accepted.

When the BIND reports server fail, rather than a negative answer with 
neg-TTL, how long is SRV FAIL cached in BIND9?   RFC2308 says no longer than 5 
minutes.

We do not know whether unknown domain's NS was really SRV FAIL for 9 days.

Len

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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin Darcy

On 8/24/2010 2:25 AM, rams wrote:

Hi,
I have set up data as follows in bind.
Zone: rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com
maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN  CNAME maint.global.rameshops5526old.com 
http://maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns5.rameshops5526old.com http://dns5.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns2.rameshops5526old.com http://dns2.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns1.rameshops5526old.com http://dns1.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns6.rameshops5526old.com http://dns6.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns4.rameshops5526old.com http://dns4.rameshops5526old.com.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com.   21600   IN  
NS dns3.rameshops5526old.com http://dns3.rameshops5526old.com.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS j.ns.nsatc.net http://j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS a.ns.nsatc.net http://a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS l.ns.nsatc.net http://l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS d.ns.nsatc.net http://d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS b.ns.nsatc.net http://b.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS e.ns.nsatc.net http://e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS c.ns.nsatc.net http://c.ns.nsatc.net.

Queried against bind and get the reposne as follows
[r...@stulcqacustbind2 recursive_enabled]# dig @10.31.145.194 
http://10.31.145.194 maint.rameshops5526old.com 
http://maint.rameshops5526old.com.
;  DiG 9.6.1-P3  @10.31.145.194 http://10.31.145.194 
maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com.

; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16855
;; flags: qr *aa* rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 7, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com.
IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN  CNAME maint.global.rameshops5526old.com 
http://maint.global.rameshops5526old.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS e.ns.nsatc.net http://e.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS l.ns.nsatc.net http://l.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS a.ns.nsatc.net http://a.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS j.ns.nsatc.net http://j.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS c.ns.nsatc.net http://c.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS d.ns.nsatc.net http://d.ns.nsatc.net.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com. 300 
IN NS b.ns.nsatc.net http://b.ns.nsatc.net.

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 10.31.145.194#53(10.31.145.194)
;; WHEN: Tue Aug 24 06:26:31 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 195
Here AA flag is returning is it correct? because domain 
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com.  
delegated so we should not return AA flag right? Please clarify me.


You're authoritative for the CNAME record that is contained in the 
Answer Section.



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Re: Clarification on bind response

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin Darcy

On 8/24/2010 8:18 AM, rams wrote:


Hi
When we have data as follows queried domain 
maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com/. 
against bind and my own resolver. Bind and my resolver response are 
same but only mismatching with flags. bind is returning AA flag but my 
resolver is not returning AA flag. in this case wihcih is correct bind 
or my resolver?

Zone: rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/

maint.rameshops5526old.com http://maint.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN  CNAME
maint.global.rameshops5526old.com 
http://maint.global.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns5.rameshops5526old.com http://dns5.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns2.rameshops5526old.com http://dns2.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns1.rameshops5526old.com http://dns1.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns6.rameshops5526old.com http://dns6.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns4.rameshops5526old.com http://dns4.rameshops5526old.com/.
rameshops5526old.com http://rameshops5526old.com/.   21600   IN 
 NS dns3.rameshops5526old.com http://dns3.rameshops5526old.com/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS j.ns.nsatc.net http://j.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS a.ns.nsatc.net http://a.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS l.ns.nsatc.net http://l.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS d.ns.nsatc.net http://d.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS b.ns.nsatc.net http://b.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS e.ns.nsatc.net http://e.ns.nsatc.net/.
global.rameshops5526old.com http://global.rameshops5526old.com/. 300 
IN NS c.ns.nsatc.net http://c.ns.nsatc.net/.



AA is set on BIND's response because the CNAME is coming directly from 
authoritative data.


AA is not set on your resolver's response because the answer *isn't* 
coming directly from authoritative data.


Why is this an issue? A stub resolver or an application generally 
doesn't -- and shouldn't -- care -- or usually doesn't even *know* -- 
about the setting of the AA flag.



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discrepancy with rndc dumpdb -zones

2010-08-24 Thread Gordon A. Lang

After several successful update delete ... nsupdate sends to the master
DNS server, verified with dig, the rndc dumpdb -zones command produced
named_dump.db file still showing the deleted records.  This was repeatable
and persistent (over the half hour time period) until I performed a hard
restart of named.

Has anyone else seen this sort of thing?

Can anyone explain this?

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