Re: .IN Domain is DNSSEC enabled or not

2012-01-06 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Gaurav Kansal gaurav.kan...@nic.in wrote:

  Dear All,

 I am new to DNSSEC.
 I purchase a new domain especially for testing dnssec.
 When i ask my domain seller to put my DS key in .IN Domain, they say that
 .IN Domain is still not ready for this But as per my knowledge .IN is
 DNSSEC ready.
 I do the *dig @8.8.8.8 in. NS +dnssec* query, and it is showing the
 RRSIG record in the query answer.
 It this is sufficient to prove that .IN Domain is DNSSEC enabled or i have
 to check something else.


What this shows is that IN itself is signed in the root This is the first
step in a TLD accepting DS records from sub-domains, but does not mean that
they are ready to do so. You would really need to contact whoever manages
.in and ask them if they are accepting keys. Also, even if you find a DS
record in .in, it may not indicate that they are ready to open the doors to
general addition of DS records. They may be testing and developing tools to
handle them and have just a few test cases. I know that when I got a DS
record added for a zone I handled  that it was a mostly manual operation to
test and confirm that things were working when the registry was not yet
ready to accept DS keys in any standard way.
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E-mail: kob6...@gmail.com
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IPv4 IPv6 Queries

2012-01-06 Thread Brian Hamacher
I would like to configure my DNS Server to respond with A and 
records when someone queries for a specific site.  I don't know if this
functionality is even available but if it is would someone mind pointing
me in the right direction to get this configured.

 

 





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Re: IPv4 IPv6 Queries

2012-01-06 Thread Rick Dicaire
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Brian Hamacher bhamac...@westianet.com wrote:
 I would like to configure my DNS Server to respond with A and  records
 when someone queries for a specific site.  I don’t know if this
 functionality is even available but if it is would someone mind pointing me
 in the right direction to get this configured.

Just add an  record that points to the corresponding IPv6 IP in
the zone file where your existing A record is.

hostname IN A xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
hostname IN  ::::etc


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Re: IPv4 IPv6 Queries

2012-01-06 Thread /dev/rob0
On Friday 06 January 2012 07:05:40 Brian Hamacher wrote:
 I would like to configure my DNS Server to respond with A and 
 records when someone queries for a specific site.  I don't know if

s/site/name/ -- DNS deals in names.

 this functionality is even available but if it is would someone
 mind pointing me in the right direction to get this configured.

Of course it is available, because that is exactly what DNS does: 
answer queries, return results as found. (Found either in zones or 
through recursion.)

It's hard to guess what you are not understanding. Perhaps you can 
elaborate on what you want to do and why?
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variable dig results

2012-01-06 Thread M. Meadows

 
Wondering why we get variable results from the following command:dig 
eftc.thehartford.com
(sometimes we get authority section and additional section feedback ... 
sometimes we don't)
 
Usually we see the following:
 
;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2  eftc.thehartford.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35955
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eftc.thehartford.com.  IN  A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
eftc.thehartford.com.   120 IN  A   162.136.189.173
;; Query time: 94 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185)
;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6 07:23:07 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 54

 
But occasionally we see :
 
;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2  eftc.thehartford.com ;; 
global options:  printcmd ;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64958 ;; flags: qr aa; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eftc.thehartford.com.   IN   A
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
eftc.thehartford.com. 120IN   A 162.136.189.173
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
thehartford.com. 120IN   NS  
hfdns3.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120IN   NS  
hfdns4.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120IN   NS  
simns3.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120IN   NS  
simns4.thehartford.com.
 
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
hfdns3.thehartford.com.   120IN   A 
162.136.188.3
hfdns4.thehartford.com.   120IN   A 
162.136.188.4
simns3.thehartford.com.   120IN   A 
162.136.190.3
simns4.thehartford.com.   120IN   A 
162.136.190.4
 
;; Query time: 52 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6 00:10:02 2012 ;; 
MSG SIZE  rcvd: 202
 
 
I assume this is due to differences in response from different auth 
nameservers. If that's the case ... what does one have set up to return the 2nd 
response?
 
Thanks!
Martin Meadows
 
 


 

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Re: variable dig results

2012-01-06 Thread Fr34k
I suspect that dig is confused.  Let me explain.


Looks like WHOIS says that these (2) servers are authoritative for this domain:

ns1.thehartford.com.   ['162.136.188.1']   [TTL=172800] 
ns2.thehartford.com.   ['162.136.190.1']   [TTL=172800] 


However, the DNS configuration says something different, which lists these (4) 
servers instead:


hfdns3.thehartford.com  ['162.136.188.3']   [TTL=120] 
hfdns4.thehartford.com  ['162.136.188.4']   [TTL=120] 
simns3.thehartford.com  ['162.136.190.3']   [TTL=120] 
simns4.thehartford.com  ['162.136.190.4']   [TTL=120] 


As one can see, they do not match nor even overlap nor even agree.
Someone needs to decide which servers are really supposed to be authoritative 
for this domain and have alignment in all configurations.

http://www.intodns.com/thehartford.com

Hope this helps.









 From: M. Meadows sun-g...@live.com
To: bind-users bind-users@lists.isc.org 
Sent: Friday, January 6, 2012 8:28 AM
Subject: variable dig results
 

 
 
Wondering why we get variable results from the following command:    dig 
eftc.thehartford.com
(sometimes we get authority section and additional section feedback ... 
sometimes we don't)
 
Usually we see the following:
 
;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2  eftc.thehartford.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35955
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eftc.thehartford.com.  IN  A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
eftc.thehartford.com.   120 IN  A   162.136.189.173
;; Query time: 94 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185)
;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6 07:23:07 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 54

 
But occasionally we see :
 

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2  eftc.thehartford.com ;; 
global options:  printcmd ;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64958 ;; flags: qr aa; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eftc.thehartford.com.   IN   A
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
eftc.thehartford.com. 120    IN   A 162.136.189.173
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
thehartford.com. 120    IN   NS  
hfdns3.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120    IN   NS  
hfdns4.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120    IN   NS  
simns3.thehartford.com.
thehartford.com. 120    IN   NS  
simns4.thehartford.com.
 
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
hfdns3.thehartford.com.   120    IN   A 
162.136.188.3
hfdns4.thehartford.com.   120    IN   A 
162.136.188.4
simns3.thehartford.com.   120    IN   A 
162.136.190.3
simns4.thehartford.com.   120    IN   A 
162.136.190.4
 
;; Query time: 52 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6 00:10:02 2012 
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 202
 
 
I assume this is due to differences in response from different auth 
nameservers. If that's the case ... what does one have set up to return the 
2nd response?
 
Thanks!
Martin Meadows
 
 

 

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Re: variable dig results

2012-01-06 Thread David Forrest

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, M. Meadows wrote:




Wondering why we get variable results from the following command:dig 
eftc.thehartford.com
(sometimes we get authority section and additional section feedback ... 
sometimes we don't)




;; Query time: 52 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6 00:10:02 2012 ;; 
MSG SIZE  rcvd: 202


I assume this is due to differences in response from different auth 
nameservers. If that's the case ... what does one have set up to return the 2nd 
response?


As the server wasn't specified, dig tries each of the servers listed in 
/etc/resolv.conf and used 172.25.17.185 both times, one with the rd flag 
set and got a non-authoritative answer and an authoritative.  I'd assume 
there are multiple instances or views and you're getting cached answers 
occasionally.  If consistency is needed, maybe specify the server with 
@server and/or +[no]recurse


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Re: .IN Domain is DNSSEC enabled or not

2012-01-06 Thread Laurent Bauer
On 06/01/2012 09:03, Kevin Oberman wrote:
 What this shows is that IN itself is signed in the root This is the
 first step in a TLD accepting DS records from sub-domains, but does not
 mean that they are ready to do so. You would really need to contact
 whoever manages .in and ask them if they are accepting keys. Also, even
 if you find a DS record in .in, it may not indicate that they are ready
 to open the doors to general addition of DS records. They may be testing
 and developing tools to handle them and have just a few test cases. I
 know that when I got a DS record added for a zone I handled  that it was
 a mostly manual operation to test and confirm that things were working
 when the registry was not yet ready to accept DS keys in any standard way.

Hello,

Yes indeed, a testing phase has opened a couple of month ago, it looks
like the registry will soon be ready to accept DS :
  http://www.registry.in/DNSSEC_Deployment

You might want to ask your registrar(s) if they plan to implement DNSSEC
with the .in registry.

Regards,

Laurent Bauer
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RE: variable dig results

2012-01-06 Thread M. Meadows

 
thanks for the helpful feedback guys!

 

 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 10:14:55 -0600
 From: d...@maplepark.com
 To: sun-g...@live.com
 CC: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: Re: variable dig results
 
 On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, M. Meadows wrote:
 
 
 
  Wondering why we get variable results from the following command: dig 
  eftc.thehartford.com
  (sometimes we get authority section and additional section feedback ... 
  sometimes we don't)
 
 
  ;; Query time: 52 msec
  ;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 6 00:10:02 2012 
  ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 202
 
 
  I assume this is due to differences in response from different auth 
  nameservers. If that's the case ... what does one have set up to return the 
  2nd response?
 
 As the server wasn't specified, dig tries each of the servers listed in 
 /etc/resolv.conf and used 172.25.17.185 both times, one with the rd flag 
 set and got a non-authoritative answer and an authoritative. I'd assume 
 there are multiple instances or views and you're getting cached answers 
 occasionally. If consistency is needed, maybe specify the server with 
 @server and/or +[no]recurse
 
 -- 
 David Forrest St. Louis, Missouri
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Re: New problem with lame-server after Dist-Upgrade

2012-01-06 Thread John Wobus

On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Chris Buxton wrote:

On Dec 24, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Dec 25 01:39:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'www4.l.google.com//IN':  
2001:503:231d::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:40:10 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'ns2.roka.net//IN':  
2001:500:1::803f:235#53
Dec 25 01:40:10 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'dns.roka.net//IN':  
2001:748:100:70::2#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'www.kaleme.com//IN':  
2001:503:a83e::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns3.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:500:2f::f#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:500:2f::f#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns3.ultradns.org//IN':  
2001:503:c27::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org//IN':  
2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns3.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:dc3::35#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:503:c27::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:503:ba3e::2:30#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:7fd::1#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns3.ultradns.org//IN':  
2001:7fd::1#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns5.ultradns.info/A/IN':  
2001:500:19::1#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns5.ultradns.info/A/IN':  
2001:500:1a::1#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org//IN':  
2001:500:40::1#53
Dec 25 01:42:02 storage000 named[29649]: lame-servers: info: error  
(network unreachable) resolving 'pdns4.ultradns.org/A/IN':  
2001:502:4612::1#53


That tells me your IPv6 connectivity is probably broken. Either fix  
it or disable IPv6 in named by starting it with -4.





So Bind's 'lame' log line includes the concept of 'unreachable'?  I  
seem to recall

the definition 'delegation target that answers without aa'.

However, given the '(network unreachable)' comment, I agree with your  
diagnosis.


John Wobus
Cornell
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Re: variable dig results

2012-01-06 Thread John Wobus

On Jan 6, 2012, at 11:14 AM, David Forrest wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, M. Meadows wrote:
Wondering why we get variable results from the following  
command:dig eftc.thehartford.com
(sometimes we get authority section and additional section  
feedback ... sometimes we don't)




;; Query time: 52 msec
;; SERVER: 172.25.17.185#53(172.25.17.185) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan  6  
00:10:02 2012 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 202



I assume this is due to differences in response from different auth  
nameservers. If that's the case ... what does one have set up to  
return the 2nd response?


As the server wasn't specified, dig tries each of the servers listed  
in /etc/resolv.conf and used 172.25.17.185 both times, one with the  
rd flag set and got a non-authoritative answer and an  
authoritative.  I'd assume there are multiple instances or views and  
you're getting cached answers occasionally.  If consistency is  
needed, maybe specify the server with @server and/or +[no]recurse


The cited dig answers differ in that only one has the 'rd' flag  
(recursion desired), which

suggests to me a difference in the queries.

It would be interesting to know whether +recurse versus +norecurse  
controls it. Also, +qr would

let you directly see what flags are in the query.

It's a mystery if the answers differ despite the exact same dig  
command, the same client IP and
client computer login (i.e., same .digrc if one exists).  If it's from  
different client IPs,

Bind views configured on the server could cause such a different.

John Wobus
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Re: IPv4 IPv6 Queries

2012-01-06 Thread Kevin Darcy
As others have pointed out, you configure both A and  records into 
your zone for the same name, and then the client makes *separate* 
queries for each.


If you want a lot more detail on the process, check out RFC 3493, which 
describes the socket interface for IPv6, in particular the getaddrinfo() 
library routine which can fetch IPv4 and/or IPv6 addresses for a given 
node name or service name, and also RFC 3484, which goes into detail as 
to how the client will decide which source and destination addresses to 
use when communicating with other nodes, once the IPv4 and/or IPv6 
address(es) are obtained from DNS (or any other source).




- Kevin


On 1/6/2012 8:05 AM, Brian Hamacher wrote:


I would like to configure my DNS Server to respond with A and  
records when someone queries for a specific site.  I don't know if 
this functionality is even available but if it is would someone mind 
pointing me in the right direction to get this configured.





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