RE: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread Marc Lampo
Please allow a, partly/mostly, non-technical feedback as security officer for a tld (.eu) First of all : I do not deny DNSSEC adds a challenge for administrators. They must understand that adding this additional SECurity aspect, will generate extra work (keygeneration/re-generation/signing and

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Bernhardt
So it sounds like in this case, stub zones don't buy me anything? What I wanted was for this secondary to query the subdomain name servers directly instead of relying on the domain primary via forwarding. Is making this server a secondary for the subdomain the only way? _ From: Nex6

Re: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Marc Lampo wrote: Please allow a, partly/mostly, non-technical feedback as security officer for a tld (.eu) First of all : I do not deny DNSSEC adds a challenge for administrators. They must understand that adding this additional SECurity aspect,

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Nex6
Original Message Subject: RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts From: "Mike Bernhardt" bernha...@bart.gov Date: Tue, February 28, 2012 10:15 am To: bind-users@lists.isc.org, "'Mark Andrews'" ma...@isc.org So it sounds like in this case, stub zones

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Bernhardt
Yes, you are confused :-) I am simply trying to get the domain slave to make queries for hosts in the subdomain which is hosted on other servers, instead of forwarding the queries to the domain master. I thought a stub zone would facilitate this by giving my server the lookup information it

Re: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread michoski
On 2/28/12 9:26 AM, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:16:16PM +0100, Marc Lampo wrote: First of all : I do not deny DNSSEC adds a challenge for administrators. They must understand that adding this additional SECurity aspect, will generate extra work

Re: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread Evan Hunt
I suppose there are different classes of failures; unfortunately on the resolver, there is only one result, SERVFAIL, to cover all. It would be better if there was a way to distinguish the oops, admin bungled DNSSEC errors from the ones which are more likely to be indicative of spoofing.

Re: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Chris Buxton
On Feb 28, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Mike Bernhardt wrote: Yes, you are confused J I am simply trying to get the domain slave to make queries for hosts in the subdomain which is hosted on other servers, instead of forwarding the queries to the domain master. I thought a stub zone would

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread WBrown
Why not set up the zone with its own forward statement like this: zone subdomain.example.com { type forward; forwarders { 10.172.2.50; 10.172.2.51; }; forward only; }; -- bind-users-bounces+wbrown=e1b@lists.isc.org wrote on 02/28/2012 01:04:46 PM: I am simply

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread WBrown
Perhaps this article from the ISC knowledge base will help: https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00302/47/I-want-to-forward-all-DNS-queries-from-my-caching-nameserver-to-another-server-but-configure-exceptions-for-some-domains-how.html Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Bernhardt
Forwarding was disabled for the parent zone, but it still didn't work. That's why I asked the question. I was doing one or the other, and trying to get rid of forwarding to the domain master. I have it on in global options because we don't let internal name servers go to the root; they forward to

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Mike Bernhardt
So, it seems that the stub zone only works as I expected if I disable ALL forwarding- not just in the parent zone but also in global options. Is that the expected behavior for a stub zone? It's not consistent with what you said below. _ From: Mike Bernhardt [mailto:bernha...@bart.gov]

Unusual DNSSEC errors involving g.gtld-servers.net

2012-02-28 Thread Rob Leslie
Hello all, Recently I’ve started getting numerous errors in my logs of the form: Feb 24 15:12:50 server named[3511]: validating @0xb8976b78: com SOA: got insecure response; parent indicates it should be secure Feb 24 15:12:50 server named[3511]: error (no valid RRSIG) resolving

Re: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Chris Buxton
Sorry, my mistake. Apparently, it needs to be overridden (disabled) in each affected zone, not just at the domain apex. If you leave out the stub zones entirely and disable forwarding in the parent zones, it should work. That way, the server is simply following delegations, rather than relying

RE: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Nex6
Original Message Subject: Re: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts From: Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com Date: Tue, February 28, 2012 4:58 pm To: Mike Bernhardt bernha...@bart.gov Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Sorry, my mistake. Apparently, it needs to

Re: Configuring a domain slave to look up subdomain hosts

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
Stub zones record the NS list and associated address records for the zone. Think of it as pre-populating the cache. Forwarder clauses override the normal recusive resolution process. A empty forwarders clause disables the override for names at or below the zone it appears in. These are

Re: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message cb725c9f.24ec1%micho...@cisco.com, michoski writes: Doing DNSSEC verification in 2012 is lopsided the other way. You cannot resolve the names you need sometimes. You're probably not receiving any actual protection from spoofing. I feel similarly. I do see risk in the non

Re: lists.isc.org rDNS failed, DNSSEC?

2012-02-28 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:28:54PM +, Evan Hunt wrote: the one that bites us most often is that of the expired RRSIG. If we could log that but go ahead and accept the data, most of the pain would stop. BIND has this: dnssec-accept-expired yes; Note that it opens you to replay

Re: Unusual DNSSEC errors involving g.gtld-servers.net

2012-02-28 Thread Wolfgang Nagele
Hi Rob, VeriSign contact as the operator of g.gtld-servers.net in CC. I think your resolver is noticing the right thing here. When running multiple queries against this server I occassionally receive a response that indeed has no signatures: $ dig @192.42.93.30 google.com +dnssec +norec ;

Re: Unusual DNSSEC errors involving g.gtld-servers.net

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message c9506136-4a8d-4891-ab20-105b05dc0...@ausregistry.com.au, Wolfgang N agele writes: Hi Rob, VeriSign contact as the operator of g.gtld-servers.net in CC. I think your resolver is noticing the right thing here. When running multip= le queries against this server I occassionally

Anycast DNS

2012-02-28 Thread ju wusuo
Have seen some anycast DNS implementations using more than one address, some times even on the same subnet, any considerations or reasons for doing that? ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list