Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/17/2013 5:59 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: The rational course would be to set a sunset date on TXT style spf records. April 2016 looks like a good date. 10 years after RFC 4408 was published. +1 ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinf

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <201303180329.r2i3tycx025...@calcite.rhyolite.com>, Vernon Schryver writes: > > From: Mark Andrews > > > Yet libspf2 requests SPF records and falls back to TXT on NODATA. > > It does not do a TXT query if it gets a SPF response. > > Even if my option of SPF is insane, compare the 2008

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Mark Andrews > Yet libspf2 requests SPF records and falls back to TXT on NODATA. > It does not do a TXT query if it gets a SPF response. Even if my option of SPF is insane, compare the 2008 dates on http://www.libspf2.org/ and the 2012 date on the surveys in RFC 6686. It's clear that for

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
> Vernon Schryver writes: > > > to laziness, DNS is not rocket science, I'm sure given ARM and > access to > > > google, a 13yo kid could get at least the "basics" right. > > > > Laziness?--nonsense. Postel's Law and simple logic predict the truth hurts eh. Didn't see your original post, vi

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <201303180038.r2i0cwet026...@calcite.rhyolite.com>, Vernon Schryver writes: > > 20741, so direct SPF RR hits is about one third of those using TXT RR, > > small, but, insignificant? I wouldn't really say so, but some might. I > > suspect the SPF wanting to be deprecated is because of

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Vernon Schryver
> 20741, so direct SPF RR hits is about one third of those using TXT RR, > small, but, insignificant? I wouldn't really say so, but some might. I > suspect the SPF wanting to be deprecated is because of the lack of > take-up, due to lazy admins, there are some resolvers in use from > ancient debi

Re: spf ent txt records.

2013-03-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 17:29 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 19:33 -0700, Dave Warren wrote: > > > On 3/13/2013 17:11, Noel Butler wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 14:43 -0700, Dave Warren wrote: > > > > > > > I almost wouldn't bother with SPF records these days th