authoritative rDNS

2013-10-10 Thread Jim Pazarena
I set up a subnet on my server, complete with rdns, and ARIN has been 
adjusted for my two dns servers (ns.qcislands.net  ns2.qcislands.net)


the subnet: 23.235.75.0/24

if you do a lookup of, for instance: 23.235.75.10
and bounce that nslookup off of other dns servers, SOME say:
Authoritative answers can be found from: ns  ns2

others, well, at least google 8.8.8.8 do not show anything as
authoritative, altho the IP DOES resolve.

I am curious if 8.8.8.8 isn't trying, or instead, am I missing
something which 8.8.8.8 considers incomplete and therefore 
un-authoritative ?


I just want to make sure my setup is accurate. Thanks.
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Re: authoritative rDNS

2013-10-10 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1483.1381387501.20661.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Jim Pazarena b...@paz.bz wrote:

 I set up a subnet on my server, complete with rdns, and ARIN has been 
 adjusted for my two dns servers (ns.qcislands.net  ns2.qcislands.net)
 
 the subnet: 23.235.75.0/24
 
 if you do a lookup of, for instance: 23.235.75.10
 and bounce that nslookup off of other dns servers, SOME say:
 Authoritative answers can be found from: ns  ns2
 
 others, well, at least google 8.8.8.8 do not show anything as
 authoritative, altho the IP DOES resolve.
 
 I am curious if 8.8.8.8 isn't trying, or instead, am I missing
 something which 8.8.8.8 considers incomplete and therefore 
 un-authoritative ?
 
 I just want to make sure my setup is accurate. Thanks.

Including the Authority Section in a response is optional (unless it's a 
delegation or negative response). If you ask them explicitly for the NS 
records they show it:

$ dig @8.8.8.8 -x 23.235.75 ns

;; ANSWER SECTION:
75.235.23.in-addr.arpa. 21600 IN NS ns2.qcislands.net.
75.235.23.in-addr.arpa. 21600 IN NS ns.qcislands.net.

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Forwarding requests when DNS name doesn't exist?

2013-10-10 Thread Peter Olsson
(This is probably a silly question, but I
want to explore every possibility.)

We have a proxy firewall, with no contact
between inside and outside. We have a fake
internal DNS root for zones that we use
internally. This works fine, since lookup
of external names are only made from the
outside of the proxy servers.

We are about to change to a transparent
firewall, which means that we remove the
proxy servers. Then we have to let the
inside get access to real outside DNS.

Is there any way with bind, or any other
DNS product, to keep our internal fake zones
and have them selectively forwarded to external
DNS for all names that don't exist in the
internal fake zones?
Clients would first ask internal DNS, and if
the name exists there they will use that, but
if the name doesn't exist internally they won't
get a negative response. Instead their request
would be forwarded to external DNS.

Thanks!

Peter Olsson
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Install DNS Server

2013-10-10 Thread Chandran Manikandan
Hi All,
I am running Centos 5.7 32 bit server machine.
I have installed and successfully run qmail,web,ftp with the same machine.
Now am DNS hosting with third party. I would like to install and keep DNS
hosting myself.
How to do that , How to install Dns server with the same machine or
different machine as well what is the complete procedure and steps.

Any one help me.

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Re: Install DNS Server

2013-10-10 Thread Sten Carlsen
Hi

I do that and more on an ATOM machine with 2GB RAM. I use Postfix
instead of qmail but see no reason qmail would not work.

I installed all the relevant RPMs, configured them and it works.

One thing to remember is that you need two or more DNS servers, I do
that by being a stealth master with several slaves on my 3rd party provider.


On 10/10/13 12.27, Chandran Manikandan wrote:
 Hi All,
 I am running Centos 5.7 32 bit server machine.
 I have installed and successfully run qmail,web,ftp with the same machine.
 Now am DNS hosting with third party. I would like to install and keep
 DNS hosting myself. 
 How to do that , How to install Dns server with the same machine or
 different machine as well what is the complete procedure and steps.

 Any one help me.

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 *Manikandan.C*
 *System Administrator*


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Re: Forwarding requests when DNS name doesn't exist?

2013-10-10 Thread Marc Lampo
An unwise decision, from security point of view !

You are about to open the DNS channel - public DNS resolving available for
internal clients.
Consequently data leakage, file transfer in/out over DNS become possible ...

As far as the question about internal fake zones is concerned :
if the name server has knowledge, because it is authoritative, it will use
that knowledge and will not try to query name servers on the Internet.
It becomes bogus for that zone : no delegation, but having knowledge.

Kind regards,

Marc


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Peter Olsson p...@leissner.se wrote:

 (This is probably a silly question, but I
 want to explore every possibility.)

 We have a proxy firewall, with no contact
 between inside and outside. We have a fake
 internal DNS root for zones that we use
 internally. This works fine, since lookup
 of external names are only made from the
 outside of the proxy servers.

 We are about to change to a transparent
 firewall, which means that we remove the
 proxy servers. Then we have to let the
 inside get access to real outside DNS.

 Is there any way with bind, or any other
 DNS product, to keep our internal fake zones
 and have them selectively forwarded to external
 DNS for all names that don't exist in the
 internal fake zones?
 Clients would first ask internal DNS, and if
 the name exists there they will use that, but
 if the name doesn't exist internally they won't
 get a negative response. Instead their request
 would be forwarded to external DNS.

 Thanks!

 Peter Olsson
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RE: Install DNS Server

2013-10-10 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Any reason why you’re using CentOS 5.7 given that 6.4 (and maybe later) is 
available?

if this is a new system you really ought to think about use the 6.x stuff.   
5.x is long in the tooth even though still supported it has many older upstream 
packages of things including BIND.   CentOS does put bug and security fixes in 
(or RedHat does and CentOS gets them because they build from RHEL source) but 
you still end up with something very old (BIND 9.3.x) that most folks on this 
list don’t want to talk about because it is long past EOL for BIND.





From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Sten 
Carlsen
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:38 AM
To: Chandran Manikandan
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Install DNS Server

Hi

I do that and more on an ATOM machine with 2GB RAM. I use Postfix instead of 
qmail but see no reason qmail would not work.

I installed all the relevant RPMs, configured them and it works.

One thing to remember is that you need two or more DNS servers, I do that by 
being a stealth master with several slaves on my 3rd party provider.

On 10/10/13 12.27, Chandran Manikandan wrote:
Hi All,
I am running Centos 5.7 32 bit server machine.
I have installed and successfully run qmail,web,ftp with the same machine.
Now am DNS hosting with third party. I would like to install and keep DNS 
hosting myself.
How to do that , How to install Dns server with the same machine or different 
machine as well what is the complete procedure and steps.

Any one help me.

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Re: Install DNS Server

2013-10-10 Thread David Newman
On 10/10/13 4:26 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 CentOS does put
 bug and security fixes in (or RedHat does and CentOS gets them because
 they build from RHEL source) but you still end up with something very
 old (BIND 9.3.x) that most folks on this list don’t want to talk about
 because it is long past EOL for BIND.

Another incentive is that when you enable DNSSEC (and I hope you will,
but not until you first get DNS itself working), you'll need a current
version of bind to take advantage of its key management features.

dn

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Re: Install DNS Server

2013-10-10 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
While I mostly agree, simply doing a 'yum update' against the CentOS repos
will pull you up to 5.9...which isn't really old, it was released around
the same time as 6.4.  Then at least your base OS is up to date, and you
don't have to use the community RPMs.  You can build from source, generate
your own packages, or use community SRPMs that are available.


Newer is generally better, but depending upon what you're doing moving
from 5.x to 6.x (or changing major versions in general) is often not as
easy as it sounds.  I personally still have to maintain 5.x and 6.x to
keep our developers happy.  That said, running 5.x is still not an excuse
to be out of date.  Based on the question, this might just be lack of
experience...but moving to the latest minor release is very simple.

http://www.tecmint.com/how-to-upgrade-from-centos-5-x-to-centos-5-9/

http://www.howtoforge.com/bind-installation-on-centos

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/server/bind.html

http://www.five-ten-sg.com/mapper/bind

-Original Message-
From: Lightner, Jeff jlight...@water.com
Date: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:26 AM
To: Sten Carlsen st...@s-carlsen.dk, Chandran Manikandan
tech2m...@gmail.com
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: Install DNS Server

Any reason why you¹re using CentOS 5.7 given that 6.4 (and maybe later)
is available?

if this is a new system you really ought to think about use the 6.x
stuff.   5.x is long in the tooth even though still supported it has many
older upstream packages of things including BIND.   CentOS does put bug
and security fixes in (or RedHat does and CentOS
 gets them because they build from RHEL source) but you still end up with
something very old (BIND 9.3.x) that most folks on this list don¹t want
to talk about because it is long past EOL for BIND.
 

 
 
From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org
 [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf
Of 
Sten Carlsen
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:38 AM
To: Chandran Manikandan
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Install DNS Server


 
Hi

I do that and more on an ATOM machine with 2GB RAM. I use Postfix instead
of qmail but see no reason qmail would not work.

I installed all the relevant RPMs, configured them and it works.

One thing to remember is that you need two or more DNS servers, I do that
by being a stealth master with several slaves on my 3rd party provider.


On 10/10/13 12.27, Chandran Manikandan wrote:


Hi All, 
I am running Centos 5.7 32 bit server machine.

I have installed and successfully run qmail,web,ftp with the same machine.

Now am DNS hosting with third party. I would like to install and keep DNS
hosting myself. 

How to do that , How to install Dns server with the same machine or
different machine as well what is the complete procedure and steps.

 

Any one help me.

 

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