Re: bind-users Digest, Vol 2011, Issue 1

2015-01-04 Thread Christian Kette
I forgot to mention, this is actually the case

The proxy has a different IP on each network.

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1. Re: BIND9 Return different IP address based on subnet
   (Christian Kette)
2. Re: BIND9 Return different IP address based on subnet
   (Matus UHLAR - fantomas)
3. RE: can't-resolve (Mohammed Ejaz)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 19:24:47 +0100
 From: Christian Kette chriswaeldc...@outlook.de
 To: Jeremy C. Reed jr...@isc.org, bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: Re: BIND9 Return different IP address based on subnet
 Message-ID: blu437-smtp59e4422d3e2444eac7b263a4...@phx.gbl
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 I have found a workaround.
 I defined a different zone for every network

 My config files are now

 /tec/bind/named.conf

 include /etc/bind/named.conf.options;
 include /etc/bind/named.conf.local;

 /etc/bind/named.conf.local

 view local {
 match-clients { localhost; };
 zone home.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.home.lan;
 };
 };
 view ext {
 match-clients { 192.168.2.0/24;};
 zone home2.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.rev.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 };
 };
 view wlan0 {
 match-clients { 192.168.3.0/24;};
 zone home3.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.rev.3.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 };
 };
 view wlan00 {
 match-clients {192.168.4.0/24;};
 zone home4.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.rev.4.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 };
 };
 view wlan01 {
 match-clients {192.168.5.0/24;};
 zone home5.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.rev.5.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 };
 };
 view int {
 match-clients {192.168.10.0/24;};
 zone home10.lan IN {
 type master;
 file /etc/bind/db.rev.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
 };
 };

 /etc/bind/db.rev.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa

 ; IP Address-to-Host DNS Pointers for the 192.168.10 subnet
 home10.lan. IN SOA DEV.home10.lan. hostmaster.home10.lan. (
 2013120101 ; serial
 8H ; refresh
 4H ; retry
 4W ; expire
 1D ; minimum
 )
 ; define the authoritative name server
 home10.lan. IN NS DEV.home10.lan.
 home10.lan. IN MX 10 DEV.home10.lan.

 localhost IN A 127.0.0.1
 DEV IN A 192.168.10.1
 router IN A 192.168.10.1
 proxy IN CNAME DEV.home10.lan.
 wpad IN A 192.168.10.1



 2014-12-28 19:59 GMT+01:00 chriswaeldc...@outlook.de:

  Thank you for the helpful answer.
  I changed the file /etc/bind/named.conf.local to
 
  view local {
  match-clients { 127.0.0.1; };
  zone home.lan IN {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.home.lan;
  };
  };
  view ext {
  match-clients { 192.168.2.0/24;};
  zone 2.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.rev.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
  };
  };
  view wlan0 {
  match-clients { 192.168.3.0/24;};
  zone 3.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.rev.3.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
  };
  };
  view wlan00 {
  match-clients {192.168.4.0/24;};
  zone 4.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.rev.4.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
  };
  };
  view wlan01 {
  match-clients {192.168.5.0/24;};
  zone 5.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.rev.5.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
  };
  };
  view int {
  match-clients {192.168.10.0/24;};
  zone 10.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
  type master;
  file /etc/bind/db.rev.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa;
  };
  };
 
 
  But now I get Non-existent domain error  (on the raspberry machine) for
  - nslookup localhost
  - nslookup DEV.home.lan
 
  I don't understand why it can't find neither the localhost nor the
  DEV.home.lan entry in /etc/bind/db.home.lan
 
 
 
  2014-12-27 22:57 GMT+01:00 Jeremy C. Reed jr...@isc.org:
 
  On Sat, 27 Dec 2014, Christian Kette wrote:
 
   I have some questions. Q1: Why do I get the IP address 192.168.2.100
  for
   DEV.home.lan from both the 192.168.2.0/24 and the 192.168.10.0/24
  network?
 
  The view that matches first is used.
 
   #include /etc/bind/named.conf.default-zones;
  ...
   Q2: What exactly are these zones in the file for? Do I need them?
 
  You didn't include the file in the email. But I 

Re: can't-resolve

2015-01-04 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Mohammed Ejaz me...@cyberia.net.sa wrote:


 Hello, all.

 now everything is fine once the port  1024 opened from the network
 firewall.



Ah! You mean on the firewall that everyone kept saying existed? And that
folk kept providing evidence of? Who would have thought...



 so it means not only 53 port requires to be open.


Yes. Which is why everyone was saying there was a firewall that you needed
to adjust.

I think it would have been much more polite / appropriate to have posted
that you'd found the firewall and acknowledged that you'd been mistaken...

W





 -Original Message-
 From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;
 [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;] On Behalf Of Ejaz
 Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:10 AM
 To: 'Warren Kumari'; 'Barry Margolin'
 Cc: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org javascript:;
 Subject: RE: can't-resolve

 Thanks for the suggestion

 I am sure No firewall at all.  Also See I now I have reassigned  the my
 previous IP which is 212.119.64.12, after that everything is fine. It
 wouldn't have worked with this IP if there is firewall on the box??

 Regards,
 Mohammed Ejaz
 CYBERIAR SAUDI ARABIA
 P.O.Box 301079, Riyadh 11372, Saudi Arabia
 Tel: +966 11 464 7114 Ext. 140
 Fax: +966 11 465 4735

 -Original Message-
 From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;
 [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;] On Behalf Of
 Warren Kumari
 Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 2:27 AM
 To: Barry Margolin
 Cc: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org javascript:;
 Subject: Re: can't-resolve

 Also, from querying from the outside (with TCP):

  ~# dig +tcp www.auth-servers.net   @212.119.64.228
 ;  DiG 9.10.1-P1  +tcp www.auth-servers.net @212.119.64.228 ;;
 global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 20716 ;; flags: qr rd
 ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
 ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;www.auth-servers.net.  IN  A

 ;; Query time: 8260 msec
 ;; SERVER: 212.119.64.228#53(212.119.64.228) ;; WHEN: Fri Dec 26 18:18:30
 EST 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 49

 Then trying the same query a few seconds later:
 dig +tcp www.auth-servers.net   @212.119.64.228

 ;  DiG 9.10.1-P1  +tcp www.auth-servers.net @212.119.64.228 ;;
 global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

 This really looks like a firewall -- perhaps there is some firewall
 software
 on the box itself?

 W


 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net
 javascript:; wrote:
  What OS is this machine running?
 
  Interestingly enough, it is unpingable, and a quick nmap fingerprints
  it
 as:
  Running: Sun Solaris 8
  OS CPE: cpe:/o:sun:sunos:5.8
  OS details: Sun Solaris 8 (SPARC)
 
  nmap could only find one open port (TCP 53 :-)) and so its
  fingerprinting is unreliable, but it *does* look like you are behind a
  firewall type devices.
  It is unusual for machines themselves to not respond to pings.
 
  fpdns says:
  fingerprint (212.119.64.228, 212.119.64.228): ISC BIND 9.2.3rc1 --
  9.6.1-P1 [recursion enabled]
 
 
 
  On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu
 javascript:;
 wrote:
  In article mailman.1330.1419633581.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org
 javascript:;,
   Ejaz me...@cyberia.net.sa javascript:; wrote:
 
  I am sure sir there is no firewall on  in the server you can make
  sure by telnet to the port 53 of this IP 212.119.64.228
 
  That doesn't mean anything. The firewall may be blocking OUTGOING
  packets to port 53, or they're blocking the returning replies (which
  go to an ephemeral port).
 
 
 
  Regards,
  Mohammed Ejaz
  CYBERIAR SAUDI ARABIA
  P.O.Box 301079, Riyadh 11372, Saudi Arabia
  Tel: +966 11 464 7114 Ext. 140
  Fax: +966 11 465 4735
 
  -Original Message-
  From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;
  [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:;] On Behalf Of
 Matus UHLAR -
  fantomas
  Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 7:35 PM
  To: bind-users@lists.isc.org javascript:;
  Subject: Re: can't-resolve
 
  On 26.12.14 19:21, Ejaz wrote:
  When  run dig a yahoo.com @212.119.64.228 below is the ouput.
  
  yahoo.com. (38)
  17:39:41.363532 IP 212.119.64.228.37891  212.119.64.228.domain:
 34168+
  [1au] A?   yahoo.com. (38)
  17:39:42.246993 IP 212.119.64.228.53702  192.5.5.241.domain: 58238
  [1au]
  A?
  yah  oo.com. (38)
  17:39:42.247012 IP 212.119.64.228.45701  192.5.5.241.domain: 13223
 [1au]
  NS? .   (28)
  17:39:43.047148 IP 212.119.64.228.43795  128.63.2.53.domain: 1539 A?
  yahoo.com.   (27)
  17:39:43.047154 IP 212.119.64.228.55178  128.63.2.53.domain: 56002
 NS?
 .
  (17)
  17:39:43.847447 IP 212.119.64.228.61664  192.58.128.30.domain: 165 A?
  yahoo.com  . (27)
  17:39:43.847542 IP 

Re: can't-resolve

2015-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 04.01.15 08:43, Mohammed Ejaz wrote:

now everything is fine once the port  1024 opened from the network
firewall.  so it means not only 53 port requires to be open.


BIND (and other DNS servers) uses random port for outgoing requests.
som you really had firewall on the path...
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Re: bind-users Digest, Vol 2011, Issue 1

2015-01-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 04.01.15 14:20, Christian Kette wrote:

I forgot to mention, this is actually the case

The proxy has a different IP on each network.


if (and only if) the clients need to use the same name for proxy...

I would keep one view for each network with different IP of the same proxy,
containing only the differing zone(s), and one view to contain all other
zones.  Other views would use the default view as forwarder (and share the
cache for effectivity)

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RE: can't-resolve

2015-01-04 Thread Mohammed Ejaz
yes, true the problem is  from the firewall. 

 

Thanks everyone for the tremendous support.

 

Ejaz

 

From: Warren Kumari [mailto:war...@kumari.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 5:09 PM
To: Mohammed Ejaz
Cc: Barry Margolin; comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org
Subject: Re: can't-resolve

 



On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Mohammed Ejaz me...@cyberia.net.sa 
mailto:me...@cyberia.net.sa  wrote:


Hello, all.

now everything is fine once the port  1024 opened from the network
firewall.  

 

 

Ah! You mean on the firewall that everyone kept saying existed? And that folk 
kept providing evidence of? Who would have thought...

 

 

so it means not only 53 port requires to be open.

 

Yes. Which is why everyone was saying there was a firewall that you needed to 
adjust.

 

I think it would have been much more polite / appropriate to have posted that 
you'd found the firewall and acknowledged that you'd been mistaken...

 

W

 




-Original Message-
From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; 
[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; ] On Behalf Of Ejaz
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:10 AM
To: 'Warren Kumari'; 'Barry Margolin'
Cc: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org javascript:; 
Subject: RE: can't-resolve

Thanks for the suggestion

I am sure No firewall at all.  Also See I now I have reassigned  the my
previous IP which is 212.119.64.12, after that everything is fine. It
wouldn't have worked with this IP if there is firewall on the box??

Regards,
Mohammed Ejaz
CYBERIAR SAUDI ARABIA
P.O.Box 301079, Riyadh 11372, Saudi Arabia
Tel: +966 11 464 7114 Ext. 140
Fax: +966 11 465 4735

-Original Message-
From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; 
[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; ] On Behalf Of Warren 
Kumari
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 2:27 AM
To: Barry Margolin
Cc: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org javascript:; 
Subject: Re: can't-resolve

Also, from querying from the outside (with TCP):

 ~# dig +tcp www.auth-servers.net http://www.auth-servers.net
@212.119.64.228 http://212.119.64.228 
;  DiG 9.10.1-P1  +tcp www.auth-servers.net 
http://www.auth-servers.net  @212.119.64.228 http://212.119.64.228  ;;
global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 20716 ;; flags: qr rd
ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.auth-servers.net http://www.auth-servers.net .  IN  A

;; Query time: 8260 msec
;; SERVER: 212.119.64.228#53(212.119.64.228) ;; WHEN: Fri Dec 26 18:18:30
EST 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 49

Then trying the same query a few seconds later:
dig +tcp www.auth-servers.net http://www.auth-servers.net@212.119.64.228 
http://212.119.64.228 

;  DiG 9.10.1-P1  +tcp www.auth-servers.net 
http://www.auth-servers.net  @212.119.64.228 http://212.119.64.228  ;;
global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

This really looks like a firewall -- perhaps there is some firewall software
on the box itself?

W


On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net 
javascript:;  wrote:
 What OS is this machine running?

 Interestingly enough, it is unpingable, and a quick nmap fingerprints
 it
as:
 Running: Sun Solaris 8
 OS CPE: cpe:/o:sun:sunos:5.8
 OS details: Sun Solaris 8 (SPARC)

 nmap could only find one open port (TCP 53 :-)) and so its
 fingerprinting is unreliable, but it *does* look like you are behind a
 firewall type devices.
 It is unusual for machines themselves to not respond to pings.

 fpdns says:
 fingerprint (212.119.64.228, 212.119.64.228): ISC BIND 9.2.3rc1 --
 9.6.1-P1 [recursion enabled]



 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu 
 javascript:; 
wrote:
 In article mailman.1330.1419633581.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org 
 javascript:; ,
  Ejaz me...@cyberia.net.sa javascript:;  wrote:

 I am sure sir there is no firewall on  in the server you can make
 sure by telnet to the port 53 of this IP 212.119.64.228

 That doesn't mean anything. The firewall may be blocking OUTGOING
 packets to port 53, or they're blocking the returning replies (which
 go to an ephemeral port).



 Regards,
 Mohammed Ejaz
 CYBERIAR SAUDI ARABIA
 P.O.Box 301079, Riyadh 11372, Saudi Arabia
 Tel: +966 11 464 7114 Ext. 140
 Fax: +966 11 465 4735

 -Original Message-
 From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; 
 [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org javascript:; ] On Behalf Of 
 Matus UHLAR -
 fantomas
 Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 7:35 PM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org javascript:; 
 Subject: Re: can't-resolve

 On 26.12.14 19:21, Ejaz wrote:
 When  run dig a yahoo.com http://yahoo.com  @212.119.64.228 
 http://212.119.64.228  below is the ouput.
 
 yahoo.com http://yahoo.com . (38)
 17:39:41.363532 IP 212.119.64.228.37891  212.119.64.228.domain: 34168+
 [1au] A?   yahoo.com http://yahoo.com . (38)
 

Re: BIND DNSSEC Guide draft

2015-01-04 Thread Timothe Litt
On 31-Dec-14 21:00, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
 ISC is seeking feedback and review for our first public draft of the 
 BIND DNSSEC Guide.  It was written in collaboration with DeepDive 
 Networking.
I haven't had a chance to look in detail, but a quick scan  resulted in
several
observations that I hope are useful.  Also, I posted your note to
dnssec-deployment, where there should be enthusiasm for the topic :-)

The private network section 6.5.4 doesn't talk about how to configure
views/stub zones so that authoritative (internal) zones on a shared
resolver/authoritative
server get validated.  (point 1 in the section dismisses the
possibility.)  This can be done.

Further, it's useful.  People are much more likely to experiment on
internal zones.
More important, consider a typical scenario: my web server on the
internal view
has a different address from the external view.  (Besides efficiency,
some commercial
routers don't do NAT on a stick  - e.g. allow an internal client to NAT
to an external
address served by that router, which is NATed to an internal server.)

So we want to train users to look for DNSSEC authentication.  Unless one
makes
this work, a notebook on the road will authenticate, but the same
notebook in the office
will not.  Don't bother trying to explain this to users; they'll simply
ignore the distinction.

Which is sort of a long way of saying: if the goal is to encourage
people to adopt DNSSEC,
your guide should make Private Networks and the corresponding recipes 
first class
citizens, not a 'don't bother with this' afterthought.  Both for admins
to feel freer to
experiment, and for users to have a consistent experience.

On key rollover - this is still a major hassle.  And while the recipes
look pretty, the process
is ugly.  Key rollover really needs to be automated.  There
are too many steps that require too much indirection.  And too many 'you
could do
this or you could do that' choices - that don't really matter,
especially for getting started. 
I don't see why a person should have to change parameters, dates,
manually generate
keys, etc.  You can work on the recipes, but I don't think they'll make
the problem
approachable - or safe.  Computers are good at this stuff - and people
aren't.

It really needs something like a daily cron job with a simple config
file that does all the work. 
Trigger based on dates, or a 'do it now' emergency/manual command. 
Key generation,
date setting, permissions, etc.  As for key uploads to external
registrars, it can mail the new keys/DS records
to the admin with 'please upload these by 'date'', and only proceed with
the roll-over when it can 'dig' them.
(The e-mail can - via the config file - include a hyperlink to the
upload page...)  For internal,
it can update the trusted keys include file, rndc reconfig, etc.
And the config file should come with reasonable default parameters, so
it 'just works' oob.
E.g. roll the zsks every 6 months and the ksks every 2 years. 
(Semi-random numbers, let's not fight about them.)

Also, RE TLSA - I think it's better to match just the subject public key
- there are several
cases where this reduces management overhead.  I know generating the
hash for that
with openssl isn't fun.  But, https://www.huque.com/bin/gen_tlsa is the
easiest way
that I've found to generate TLSA records. And it supports  SPKI
selectors...  So you might
want to point to it.

I'll try to have a closer look later.

Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
--
This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed. 

On 31-Dec-14 21:00, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
 ISC is seeking feedback and review for our first public draft of the 
 BIND DNSSEC Guide.  It was written in collaboration with DeepDive 
 Networking.

 The document provides introductory information on how DNSSEC works, how 
 to configure BIND to support some common DNSSEC features, as well as 
 some basic troubleshooting tips.  It has lots of interesting content, 
 including examples of using ISC's delv tool and using a common 
 provider's web-based interface to manage DS records.

 This is a beta edition of the guide. We'd appreciate any feedback or 
 suggestions, good or bad. You may email me directly, or to our 
 bind9-bugs@ bug tracker email, or back to this list as appropriate (such 
 as needing further community discussion). Or you may use the GitHub to 
 provide feedback (or fixes).  We plan to announce the first edition of 
 this BIND DNSSEC Guide at the end of January.

 The guide also has a recipes chapter with step-by-step examples of some 
 common configurations. If you have any requests or would like to 
 contribute some content, please let us know.

 The beta of the guide is available in HTML and PDF formats at

 http://users.isc.org/~jreed/dnssec-guide/dnssec-guide.html
 http://users.isc.org/~jreed/dnssec-guide/dnssec-guide.pdf

 The docbook source for the guide is at GitHub:
 

DMARC Record issue

2015-01-04 Thread Chris Vaughan
I have been given the task of implementing DMARC in our BIND servers due the 
recommendation of a security audit on our systems.

Whenever I create the record in the forward server, and refresh the zone, it 
comes out in the slave zone with escape characters inserted in the TXT record.

This occurs in every version of BIND that I have tried, from 9.7 up to 9.10.

Primary test zone record:

_dmarc.domain. IN TXT v=DMARC1; p=reject; rua=root@dns-test-1.domain; 
aspf=s; rf=afrf; sp=reject

Slave test zone record:

_dmarc  TXT v=DMARC1\; p=reject\; 
rua=root@dns-test-1.domain\; aspf=s\; rf=afrf\; sp=reject

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