What to report for refresh: failure trying master ... operation canceled bug?

2015-02-04 Thread Raymond Drew Walker
Howdy,

We’ve noticed the error message refresh: failure trying master ...: operation 
canceled” in our logs debugged from some slaves not updating DS records in some 
zones.

Looking into this error over at: 
https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-01213/0/What-causes-refresh:-failure-trying-master-...:-operation-canceled-error-messages.html

So far we have updated the RHEL6 kernel on the slaves which did nothing.

We have disabled the netfilter module which does seem to resolve the issue in 
our limited testing, but our sysadmins would like to continue use of this 
module for other reasons.

My question:
What information would be most useful in our incoming bug report?

—
Raymond Walker
Software Systems Engineer StSp
ITS Northern Arizona University

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RE: bad zone not loaded

2015-02-04 Thread hugo hugoo
Many thanks for your help.
I will focus now on my provisionning system.

 
 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:42:40 -0500
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 Subject: Re: bad zone not loaded
 
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 On 2/3/15 8:43 AM, hugo hugoo wrote:
 
  Sometime my provisionning system provision a bad record ina zone. 
  Example A record with 1.2.3.4.5 value (just an example).
 
 The point of a provisioning system is to keep this type of problem
 from happening.  The correct answer?  FIX YOUR PROVISIONING SYSTEM.
 
 AlanC
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Re: 'error (chase DS servers)' for static-stub zones

2015-02-04 Thread Tony Finch
Graham Clinch g.cli...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:

 What does 'lame-servers: error (chase DS servers) resolving [...]'
 really mean, and is it really an error?

 It seems to be: pause the current resolution whilst I start another
 round to fetch a (DS) record from the parent zone, but once that
 completes, everything works out.

 In particular, I see this for the first resolution within a static-stub
 zone.

I am not getting this error in my logs. I have a number of static-stub
zones; the interesting ones wrt DS chasing are cam.ac.uk (signed) and
private.cam.ac.uk (unsigned).

My setup led to this change which appeared in 9.9.5:

3689.   [bug]   Fixed a bug causing an insecure delegation from one
static-stub zone to another to fail with a broken
trust chain. [RT #35081]

 I suppose that the usual process of resolution would involve iterating
 down and so any DS record(s) would come in from the parent whilst
 discovering the delegation NS records, but with static-stub there's no
 need to know the delegation NS records.

Sadly BIND does not make use of DS records in referrals and re-fetches
them explicitly.

Tony.
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'error (chase DS servers)' for static-stub zones

2015-02-04 Thread Graham Clinch
Hi Folks,

What does 'lame-servers: error (chase DS servers) resolving [...]'
really mean, and is it really an error?

It seems to be: pause the current resolution whilst I start another
round to fetch a (DS) record from the parent zone, but once that
completes, everything works out.

In particular, I see this for the first resolution within a static-stub
zone.

I suppose that the usual process of resolution would involve iterating
down and so any DS record(s) would come in from the parent whilst
discovering the delegation NS records, but with static-stub there's no
need to know the delegation NS records.

In short, is it expected behaviour to see a 'chase DS servers' error
occasionally (once every DS-record TTL?) for static-stubbed zones?

Graham
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Re: 'error (chase DS servers)' for static-stub zones

2015-02-04 Thread Tony Finch
Graham Clinch g.cli...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:

 Are these static-stub zones configured with 'server-names'?  Ours are
 'server-addresses'

Mine use server-addresses too.

Tony.
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Re: bad zone not loaded

2015-02-04 Thread Alan Clegg
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On 2/3/15 8:43 AM, hugo hugoo wrote:

 Sometime my provisionning system provision a bad record ina zone. 
 Example A record with 1.2.3.4.5 value (just an example).

The point of a provisioning system is to keep this type of problem
from happening.  The correct answer?  FIX YOUR PROVISIONING SYSTEM.

AlanC
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Re: 'error (chase DS servers)' for static-stub zones

2015-02-04 Thread Graham Clinch
On 04/02/2015 13:04, Tony Finch wrote:
 Graham Clinch g.cli...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote:

 What does 'lame-servers: error (chase DS servers) resolving [...]'
 really mean, and is it really an error?
[snip]
 In particular, I see this for the first resolution within a static-stub
 zone.
 
 I am not getting this error in my logs. I have a number of static-stub
 zones; the interesting ones wrt DS chasing are cam.ac.uk (signed) and
 private.cam.ac.uk (unsigned).

Are these static-stub zones configured with 'server-names'?  Ours are
'server-addresses', and I imagine that the additional resolution caused
by server-names might improve the chance of finding the DS record
already cached.

Graham
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