Re: Basic info on interfaces file

2015-04-01 Thread Chris Buxton
This is not really a BIND question; this mailing list is for BIND questions. 
RTM. Start with this command:

man 5 interfaces

You can use the 'q' key to exit from the manual page.

The BIND name server will not read /etc/resolv.conf (which is what that 
dns-nameserver line refers to), so set it to '::1'. Or whatever makes sense to 
you.

The 'address' line sets the local address for the interface, on the server 
itself.

Good luck. The following may also be of some help:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto

Regards,
Chris

 On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:33 PM, STEPHEN EYRE sce...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 For educational interest i am setting up an authoritative only DNS server at 
 home and after a few failures i am starting at the beginning again.
 
 I am using Bind9 with Ubuntu 14.04 server software. 
 
 Todays question revoles around the /etc/network/interfaces file.
 
 In the line starting with 'address' i have inserted the internal IP address 
 of the machine running the bind software. I presume that is correct?
 
 In the line starting with 'dns-nameserver' i am unsure whether it should be 
 the same the 'address' as above or whether it should be my static public IP 
 address. Which should it be?
 
 Thanks for any assistance you may wish to give
 
 Stephen Eyre
 
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Basic info on interfaces file

2015-04-01 Thread STEPHEN EYRE
For educational interest i am setting up an authoritative only DNS server at 
home and after a few failures i am starting at the beginning again.


I am using Bind9 with Ubuntu 14.04 server software. 


Todays question revoles around the /etc/network/interfaces file.


In the line starting with 'address' i have inserted the internal IP address of 
the machine running the bind software. I presume that is correct?


In the line starting with 'dns-nameserver' i am unsure whether it should be the 
same the 'address' as above or whether it should be my static public IP 
address. Which should it be?


Thanks for any assistance you may wish to give


Stephen Eyre

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Re: Basic info on interfaces file

2015-04-01 Thread Tony Finch
Chris Buxton cli...@buxtonfamily.us wrote:

 The BIND name server will not read /etc/resolv.conf (which is what that
 dns-nameserver line refers to), so set it to '::1'. Or whatever makes
 sense to you.

However! Since you are configuring BIND to be an authoritative-only
server, you want the local resolver to point to some other recursive name
server, not to the name server on localhost. If your network was
previously configured with DHCP then you can probably get the correct IP
address from the nameserver line(s) in /etc/resolv.conf or
/var/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf

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Re: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Graham Clinch
 zone _msdcs.domain {
 [..]
  file data/db.192.168.1.2.slave;
 };
 zone domain {
 [..]
  file data/db.192.168.1.2.slave;
 };

Both zones are being backed by the same file, so one will be overwriting
the other.  This may not be the cause of the half-working situation, but
it won't be helping.  Do the bind logs (not sure where Fedora puts them
though - /var/log/messages?) contain any errors?

Unless domain is really '192.168.1.2', I would suggest naming your
file after the zone that it is going to contain - e.g.

file data/db._msdcs.domain;
and
file  data/db.domain;

Graham
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Re: NAMED try to solve domain from old authoritative server

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Andrews

Do you really want help?  If so stop obscuring the details.

Mark

In message 
CADC-1a0BdZDCGpkyWTDYuj9gj=menjqmxw2usdk4+dxvw_p...@mail.gmail.com, Teerapatr 
Kittiratanachai writes:
 Hi List,
 
 I have faced the problem.
 Firstly, I have 2 nameserver, the first nameserver is the
 authoritative nameserver and not allow the recursive. The second one
 is the recursive nameserver, and also store zonefile as the same with
 the first server.
 
 I have remove zonefile from the first server and reload named process.
 It can work normally, I got the SERVFAIL response when I try to query
 from it.
 And at the second server, after it remove zone from named.conf and
 `rndc reload`, it also can query from the new authoritative
 nameserver. But after a few hours, new TTL is 600, it go back to query
 from my first server which give me below log.
 
 lame-servers: error (unexpected RCODE REFUSED) resolving
 'www.domain.tld/A/IN': 192.168.1.1#53
 lame-servers: lame server resolving 'www.domain.tld' (in
 'domain.tld'?): 2001:db8:0:1::101#53
 
 I must do the `rndc flushname domain.tld` to flush the cache.
 However a few hours after I flush cache, the problem occur again.
 
 Does anyone ever face this problem?
 
 My named version is below.
 
 #named -V
 BIND 9.9.2-P1 built with '--localstatedir=/var' '--disable-linux-caps'
 '--disable-symtable' '--with-randomdev=/dev/random' '--without-python'
 '--with-openssl=/usr' '--with-libxml2=/usr/local' '--without-idn'
 '--enable-ipv6' '--enable-threads' '--sysconfdir=/etc/namedb'
 '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man'
 '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' '--build=x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2'
 'build_alias=x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.2' 'CC=cc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
 -fno-strict-aliasing' 'LDFLAGS= -Wl,-rpath=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib'
 'CPPFLAGS=' 'CPP=cpp' 'CXX=c++' 'CXXFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
 -fno-strict-aliasing'
 using OpenSSL version: OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010
 using libxml2 version: 2.7.8
 
 BR,
 Te
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Re: Variable in name of file for named.conf

2015-04-01 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1867.1427927445.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Jeff Sadowski jeff.sadow...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a number of slave domains that I would like a naming scheme and
 not have to go to each and change the filename.
 
 I have the following zones
 
 zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 2.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 3.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 4.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 5.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 6.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 7.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 8.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 9.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 zone 10.168.192.in-addr.arpa {
 include named.slave;
 };
 
 named.slave looks as follows
 
 type slave;
 masters {192.168.1.2;};
 file data/db.@.slave;
 
 It appears to work on my queries.
 
 nslookup 192.168.1.2
 
 2.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa  name = pdc.domain
 
 nslookup 192.168.1.1
 
 1.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa  name = gw1.domain
 
 nslookup 192.168.2.1
 
 1.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa  name = gw2.domain
 
 the only file created in my data directory seems to be db.@.slave
 with the at sign.

Why would you expect anything different? @ only has special meaning 
inside zone files, it's not special in named.conf.

 
 Do I really need to have each zone with its own file?

Yes, you do. What's happening is that every time one of the reverse 
zones is transferred, it's overwriting that file. But the files are only 
used when initializing the zones when named starts up; you get the 
correct answers because the in-memory versions of the zones are 
distinct. But try restarting named and then see what happens when you do 
those nslookups. You'll see that 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 both return 
the same name.

 
 Is there a special syntax to get what I expect?
 expected files:
 data/db.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa.slave
 data/db.2.168.192.in-addr.arpa.slave
 data/db.3.168.192.in-addr.arpa.slave
 ...
 data/db.10.168.192.in-addr.arpa.slave
 
 if not I can have Make do it and build some scripts to do what I want
 but if there is syntax to do what I want it would be nice.

No, there's no built-in syntax to create the filename based on the zone 
name.

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com.google how did they do that

2015-04-01 Thread Thomas Schulz
As of the time I am sending this, you can point your browser to
http://com.google and get a web page. How did they get com.google
to resolve?

Tom Schulz
Applied Dynamics Intl.
sch...@adi.com
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Re: com.google how did they do that

2015-04-01 Thread Reindl Harald



Am 01.04.2015 um 20:42 schrieb Thomas Schulz:

As of the time I am sending this, you can point your browser to
http://com.google and get a web page. How did they get com.google
to resolve?


.google is just another new TLD





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RE: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Lightner, Jeff
You can do subdomains with the one zone file rather than having separate zones 
you just have to put a new ORIGIN for the subdomain.

In the domain file for domain after the SOA and existing records (NS, A, 
CNAME etc...) add a line:

$ORIGIN _msdcs.domain.; New subdomain 
Then add the records (A, CNAME, SRV etc...) that you want for that subdomain.   
(You don't need to add SOA, NS etc... unless they're different for the 
subdomain)





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-Original Message-
From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Graham Clinch
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:56 AM
To: Jeff Sadowski; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: subdomain with domain

 zone _msdcs.domain {
 [..]
  file data/db.192.168.1.2.slave;
 };
 zone domain {
 [..]
  file data/db.192.168.1.2.slave;
 };

Both zones are being backed by the same file, so one will be overwriting the 
other.  This may not be the cause of the half-working situation, but it won't 
be helping.  Do the bind logs (not sure where Fedora puts them though - 
/var/log/messages?) contain any errors?

Unless domain is really '192.168.1.2', I would suggest naming your file after 
the zone that it is going to contain - e.g.

file data/db._msdcs.domain;
and
file  data/db.domain;

Graham
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Re: com.google how did they do that

2015-04-01 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
 I'm sure it was not cheap.

Peanuts compared to their buying .app for $25m. [1] Here's a list of the
other TLDs they've got so far: [2]

 Brace yourself!  There are many here now, and more coming.

The list of delegated strings [3] increases almost daily, yes. (And I
can't stop laughing.)

-JP

[1] http://www.wired.com/2015/02/is-googles-latest-tld-purchase-a-game-changer/
[2] http://www.google.com/registry/
[3] http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings
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Re: com.google how did they do that

2015-04-01 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1859.1427915221.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Jan-Piet Mens jpmens@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm sure it was not cheap.
 
 Peanuts compared to their buying .app for $25m. [1] Here's a list of the
 other TLDs they've got so far: [2]

Some of them sound like more April Fools jokes.

 
  Brace yourself!  There are many here now, and more coming.
 
 The list of delegated strings [3] increases almost daily, yes. (And I
 can't stop laughing.)
 
 -JP
 
 [1] 
 http://www.wired.com/2015/02/is-googles-latest-tld-purchase-a-game-changer/
 [2] http://www.google.com/registry/
 [3] http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings

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Re: com.google how did they do that

2015-04-01 Thread /dev/rob0
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 02:42:04PM -0400, Thomas Schulz wrote:
 As of the time I am sending this, you can point your browser
 to http://com.google and get a web page. How did they get
 com.google to resolve?

I'm sure it was not cheap.

Brace yourself!  There are many here now, and more coming.
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Recall: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Lightner, Jeff would like to recall the message, subdomain with domain.
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Re: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Vinícius Ferrão
Remember to put check-names ignore to use underlined zones.

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Barry S. Finkel bsfin...@att.net wrote:
 
 On 4/1/2015, Jeff Sadowski jeff.sadow...@gmail.com wrote
 The other day I found that my secondary name servers running bind
 where not dishing out
 
 _msdcs.domain SRV records
 
 This was causing join issues. It turned out that the Domain controller
 had 2 different scopes one for
 
 _msdcs.domain
 and one for
 domain
 
 so I shared the second _msdcs.domain scope with all my bind secondary 
 servers.
 
 It would be a good idea to also have the other Active Directory
 underscore zones:
 
 __sites.domain
 _tcp.domain
 _udp.domain
 
 on your slave server.
 
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Re: BIND not loading into memory on first transfer

2015-04-01 Thread Frank Even
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
 In article mailman.1821.1427468103.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
  /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:34:42AM -0700, Frank Even wrote:
  In this particular instance, the masters ended up under maintenance
  shortly after these boxes rebooted, so they were unable to transfer
  the zone from them for another 2 hours.  These boxes were serving
  stale data after boot despite being able to accomplish one zone
  transfer after boot.  It seems that failing the first zone transfer
  did NOT load the zone into memory (but subsequent zone transfers
  while still failing to write the tmp file DID load the zone into
  memory).
 
  I guess the question really is, is this expected behavior or a bug?

 The bug is a misconfiguration bug, where contrary to documented
 requirements, you have not given named write privilege in its
 directory.

 I think you're saying named should fail to load the stale zones,
 which at startup it cannot know are stale.  That does not sound
 correct to me.

 Perhaps you're suggesting that named should SERVFAIL the zone when
 the first zone transfer has happened, and while this sounds more
 reasonable, I am not sure that the zone transfer actually does take
 place if named is unable to open a temporary file to write.  (What
 would be the point in talking to the master when you know you are
 unable to handle the data?)

 He's not suggesting either of these. He's saying that when it
 successfully transferred the zone, it should update the in-memory
 version, and serve that, even though it wasn't able to save it to disk.
 That's what it does on the SECOND transfer, it just doesn't do it on the
 FIRST transfer.

^^^  THIS!  Exactly!  I REALIZE I had a configuration problem that
prevented writing the zone file locally that snuck in as it turns out
on the bind-chroot package update.  That's irrelevant to the issue I
noticed after that. It DOES load up in memory and serve it up
generally.  It's just that what I've seen in this particular instance
is that it failed to do this on the first successful zone transfer,
then loaded it up in memory on the 2nd try (which sadly in this
instance, was 2 hours later due to other issues, which of course
caused it to be noticed in this instance where it might not have been
in previous instances).

Thanks.
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Re: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Barry S. Finkel

On 4/1/2015, Jeff Sadowski jeff.sadow...@gmail.com wrote

The other day I found that my secondary name servers running bind
where not dishing out

_msdcs.domain SRV records

This was causing join issues. It turned out that the Domain controller
had 2 different scopes one for

_msdcs.domain
and one for
domain

so I shared the second _msdcs.domain scope with all my bind secondary servers.


It would be a good idea to also have the other Active Directory
underscore zones:

 __sites.domain
 _tcp.domain
 _udp.domain

on your slave server.

--Barry Finkel
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Re: subdomain with domain

2015-04-01 Thread Steven Carr
On 1 April 2015 at 20:53, Barry S. Finkel bsfin...@att.net wrote:
 It would be a good idea to also have the other Active Directory
 underscore zones:

  __sites.domain
  _tcp.domain
  _udp.domain

 on your slave server.

From what I've seen in the field, in most AD installations those
aren't actual subdomains, Microsoft just uses dotted host names in the
main domain. The only subdomain that is always created is the _msdcs
subdomain, the rest usually need manual intervention to create them.
(The MMC tricks you as it shows folders for subdomains on the dotted
host names when they don't actually exist.)

To see what domains you actually have configured in Microsoft DNS use
dnscmd /enumzones, then replicate those in your secondary.

Steve
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