Re: RE: Providing GeoIP information for servers

2017-05-11 Thread Timothe Litt
On 10-May-17 17:50, John W. Blue wrote:
> >From the it-could-be-worse department:
>
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/kansas-couple-sues-ip-mapping-firm-for-turning-their-life-into-a-digital-hell/
>
> I am more a fan of continental geolocation accuracy when it comes to IP 
> addresses.
>
> John
If your static IP address has a reverse name in DNS, it's a short hop
through whois to your actual location.

Well, usually. It is possible that none of the contact addresses are
where the IP address is located - especially for large organizations.
And there are the whois proxies that obscures your physical location.

Still, it's pretty hard to hide.  (Even in a Kansas lake.)

Depending on your situation, you may wish to have different accuracy
and/or precision in internal and external LOC records.

But on the original topic:  Contact Maxmind and see if they'll fix your
address. https://support.maxmind.com/geoip-data-correction-request/ 
They may require evidence that Comcast has delegated the address to you.

Timothe Litt
ACM Distinguished Engineer
--
This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,
if any, on the matters discussed. 


> 
> From: bind-users  on behalf of Mark Andrews 
> 
>
>
> AFAIK Maxmind et al don't lookup LOC records.  That being said if
> enough people published LOC records they might start.
>
> For Google you can update the location using a app which uses the
> phone's GPS.
>
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
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RE: Providing GeoIP information for servers

2017-05-11 Thread Charles Elliott
If you search for the terms "Computer location," "Default computer
location," "Sensor data API," you may find:

Hundreds of people have complained about this issue.

None of the proposed solutions work.

In Windows 7 it was possible to enter your location as your exact postal
address, but MSFT has deliberately obfuscated this capability and limited it
to country (in control panel/region) perhaps because:
 Maxmind was sued over an incorrect location that brought repeated
attention from law enforcement.
 One's exact location is a security risk, since bad people -- such as
the two teenage girls who
  recently dragged a man to his death with their car to avoid paying
fully for a cell phone they had
  agreed to purchase -- have learned to use the Internet.
People could disguise their location to avoid law enforcement.
You can surmise that if people could change their default computer
location, they would endlessly play
  with it, thus making its value worthless.

The topic ""Sensor data API" is interesting and "MIGHT" satisfy your needs:
   One of the categories of sensor data that Windows will record is
geolocation.
   It is possible to set up a sensor, such as a GPS device, to report its
data to the Windows sensor data
 facility by giving that facility the address of a callback function to
report the data.  Thereafter,
 apps like the "Sensor Diagnostic Tool" (before Windows 10) and the
"SensorInfo App" (Windows 10, free
 in the MSFT store) will report the correct geolocation.  Conceivably
you could fake the data and do
 w/o a GPS device.
   GPS devices that have a USB connection and come with a driver provide
very accurate geolocation, but
 not time, data, and they are relatively inexpensive.  For instance, see
 
http://usglobalsat.com/p-57-br-355-gps.aspx#images/product/large/57.jpg.  It
might be possible to
 find a GPS unit that is designed to work with the Windows Sensor Data
facility; the Sensor Data API
 documentation specifically mentions that possibility.  I have never
seen one for sale, but I have
 not looked very hard either.
   You might learn the Sensor Data API, purchase a GPS device, write a
program to access the GPS lat/long,
 report that data to the Windows sensor data facility, find that the
"Sensor Diagnostic Tool" or the
 "SensorInfo App" and/or the Windows Management Interface correctly
reports your geolocation, but that
 the location reported to users is still incorrect.

C Elliott
-Original Message-
From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Moskowitz
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 5:23 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Providing GeoIP information for servers

I am kind of tired in my systems being reported as being in Plymouth MI
instead of Oak Park MI.  That is the best Comcast seems to be willing to do
for where my IP addresses (which are static) reside.

Is there anyway to provide location information for a server via DNS that
would feed into GeoIP?  For example, do LOC records work for this?

thanks

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