Re: ipv6 implementation in an ipv4 camp

2010-09-10 Thread Mike Mackintosh
Although its not perfect, you can look into IP protocol 41 which is IPv6 in 
IPv4. Helps provide some functionality in a last resort case.

Jim Pazarena b...@paz.bz wrote:

I am curious if anyone can point out articles or deeper instructions
regarding an implementation and launch of ipv6 in a fully ipv4 camp?

If the upstream ISP still provides the end user an ipv4 number
as a gateway, and the end user still has a /24 or /23 assigned by
the ISP, need they be concerned with ipv6?

would the ipv4 /23 subnet be 'translatable' to a corresponding
ipv6 number?

Any source documents would be greatly appreciated.
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Cannot resolve DNS off public dns, but can via nameserver ip

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Mackintosh

Hi All,

I recently set up a new web server for a group of hosts, and mirrored  
the setup of bind off a working system. For some reason, the DNS is  
not resolving off public dns server when the nameservers for these  
domains are directed to this server, and i cannot resolve any of the  
zones off public DNS but i can if i direct dig to resolve off the  
server's IP.


The major difference is the registrar for the new domains. I am using Site5.Com 
, and have directed the domains to the new nameservers.


Example, the domain is angrserver.net

Digging angryserver.net returns a timeout. I registered the name  
servers below to the correct ip's, 205.186.156.125 and 205.186.156.124  
on SIte5.


Primary Nameserver: dns.angryserver.net
Secondary Nameserver: dns2.angryserver.net

Dig angryserver.net @205.186.156.125 returns the correct results. Bind  
successfully started.


How will the registrar be able to resolve the host name dns.angryserver.net 
 if dns is not propagating? I understand that when you register a  
domain, the registrar will send the nameserver information to the root  
servers, which are then queried for your domain when you do a lookup.  
If dns.angryserver.net and dns2.angryserver.net is not propagated to  
the root servers, how can it be resolved to the correct nameserver? Do  
i need to create an A record for another domain and point that to the  
nameservers, and then update my NS records for angryserver.net to use  
the other domain?


Bind is running and the zones are working, its just the whole working  
across the internet that's getting me confussed.


Thanks,

Mike
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Re: Cannot resolve DNS off public dns, but can via nameserver ip

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Mackintosh

Thanks,

That was the answer i was looking for. Now it is making sense.

Thanks again,

Mike

On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Dave Sparro wrote:


On 8/13/2010 1:53 PM, Mike Mackintosh wrote:

How will the registrar be able to resolve the host name
dns.angryserver.net if dns is not propagating? I understand that when
you register a domain, the registrar will send the nameserver
information to the root servers, which are then queried for your  
domain
when you do a lookup. If dns.angryserver.net and  
dns2.angryserver.net is

not propagated to the root servers, how can it be resolved to the
correct nameserver? Do i need to create an A record for another  
domain

and point that to the nameservers, and then update my NS records for
angryserver.net to use the other domain?



The registrar will have a mechanism for you to supply the IP address 
(es) of you name server(s).  These are called glue records.


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Re: Cannot resolve DNS off public dns, but can via nameserver ip

2010-08-13 Thread Mike Mackintosh
That is correct. I made the change like that to get it working  
temporarily. The registrar is pointing to the angrystatic.com  
nameservers, which the zone file is referencing the  
dns.angryserver.net host. I then had dns.angrystatic.com point to the  
same IP address as dns.angryserver.net, so the domain could be  
resolved. What would the side effects be leaving the NS in the zone  
file to angryserver, but the registrar pointing to angrystatic?


It looks as if the root cause of the problem is that the registrar is  
not handling the glue record correctly, and causing the nameservers to  
be unresolvable.


Thanks,

Mike


On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Lyle Giese wrote:


Mike Mackintosh wrote:

Hi All,

I recently set up a new web server for a group of hosts, and mirrored
the setup of bind off a working system. For some reason, the DNS is
not resolving off public dns server when the nameservers for these
domains are directed to this server, and i cannot resolve any of the
zones off public DNS but i can if i direct dig to resolve off the
server's IP.

The major difference is the registrar for the new domains. I am using
Site5.Com, and have directed the domains to the new nameservers.

Example, the domain is angrserver.net

Digging angryserver.net returns a timeout. I registered the name
servers below to the correct ip's, 205.186.156.125 and  
205.186.156.124

on SIte5.

Primary Nameserver: dns.angryserver.net
Secondary Nameserver: dns2.angryserver.net

Dig angryserver.net @205.186.156.125 returns the correct results.  
Bind

successfully started.

How will the registrar be able to resolve the host name
dns.angryserver.net if dns is not propagating? I understand that when
you register a domain, the registrar will send the nameserver
information to the root servers, which are then queried for your
domain when you do a lookup. If dns.angryserver.net and
dns2.angryserver.net is not propagated to the root servers, how can  
it
be resolved to the correct nameserver? Do i need to create an A  
record

for another domain and point that to the nameservers, and then update
my NS records for angryserver.net to use the other domain?

Bind is running and the zones are working, its just the whole working
across the internet that's getting me confussed.

Thanks,

Mike


Mike,
I notice that if I ask the root servers, it tells me that the
authorative name servers are dns.angrystatic.com and dns2.angrystatic.com 
.


But when I ask the servers at ip address 205.186.156.124 and
205.186.156.125, they tell me the names of the name servers for that
domain are dns.angryserver.net and dns2.angryserver.net.

The zone files do not match what the root servers are telling me.

Lyle

ncc1701b:~ # dig @192.5.6.30 angryserver.net

;  DiG 9.7.1  @192.5.6.30 angryserver.net
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47316
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;angryserver.net. IN A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
angryserver.net. 172800 IN NS dns.angrystatic.com.
angryserver.net. 172800 IN NS dns2.angrystatic.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.angrystatic.com. 172800 IN A 205.186.156.124
dns2.angrystatic.com. 172800 IN A 205.186.156.125

;; Query time: 98 msec
;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(192.5.6.30)
;; WHEN: Fri Aug 13 16:47:21 2010
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 117

ncc1701b:~ # dig @205.186.156.124 angryserver.net

;  DiG 9.7.1  @205.186.156.124 angryserver.net
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 2057
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;angryserver.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.119

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
angryserver.net. 3600 IN NS dns.angryserver.net.
angryserver.net. 3600 IN NS dns2.angryserver.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.125
dns2.angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.124

;; Query time: 72 msec
;; SERVER: 205.186.156.124#53(205.186.156.124)
;; WHEN: Fri Aug 13 16:47:41 2010
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 118

ncc1701b:~ # dig @205.186.156.125 angryserver.net

;  DiG 9.7.1  @205.186.156.125 angryserver.net
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52826
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;angryserver.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.119

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
angryserver.net. 3600 IN NS dns2.angryserver.net.
angryserver.net. 3600 IN NS dns.angryserver.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.125
dns2.angryserver.net. 3600 IN A 205.186.156.124

;; Query time: 72 msec
;; SERVER: 205.186.156.125#53