On 07/29/2010 01:38 PM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote:
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:38:20 +0300
From: Jukka Pakkanen<jukka.pakka...@qnet.fi>
Subject: Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317
To:bind-users@lists.isc.org
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29.7.2010 14:26, Niobos kirjoitti:
>  On 2010-07-29 09:58, Jukka Pakkanen wrote
>
>>  Recursion is only allowed for the local networks, but why the server
>>  thinks recursion is needed in the first place?
>>
>  Because it is: dig -x looks for 200.217.142.62.in-addr.arpa.
>  Your server is not a master for this zone; instead it's master for
>  128/25.217.142.62.in-addr.arpa.
>
>  The original request (200.217.142.62.in-addr.arpa.) is mapped via a
>  CNAME to a name inside your zone, but this mapping is done by the
>  ns3.sci.fi. nameserver; hence recursion is needed.
>
Ok, this makes sense to me too.  But what is the fix, I can't allow
general recursion for the world?

Is it possible to allow recursion for this zone only?  (sorry being
lazy, I'm sure this is in the ARM..).

I cannot understand why you need RFC 2317 delegation when you have two c-classes? But that's not an answer to problem.

# whois 62.142.220.5
[snip]
inetnum:      62.142.220.0 - 62.142.221.255
netname:      Q-NET

I see right that there's delegation & data on ns6.sci.fi. name server...

# dig +trace -x 62.142.220.5
[snip]
142.62.in-addr.arpa.    172800  IN      NS      ns3.sci.fi.
142.62.in-addr.arpa.    172800  IN      NS      ns6.sci.fi.
142.62.in-addr.arpa.    172800  IN      NS      ns5.sci.fi.
142.62.in-addr.arpa.    172800  IN      NS      ns.ripe.net.
;; Received 172 bytes from 192.134.0.49#53(NS3.NIC.FR) in 206 ms

220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns3.sci.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns5.sci.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns6.sci.fi.
;; Received 151 bytes from 195.74.0.10#53(ns3.sci.fi) in 217 ms

5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qntsrv2.qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     ns1.qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns3.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns1.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns2.qnet.fi.
;; Received 154 bytes from 195.74.0.59#53(ns6.sci.fi) in 224 ms


...and further investigation is indicating...

# dig +norecurse @ns3.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5
; <<>> DiG 9.6.1 <<>> +norecurse @ns3.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16475
;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa.     IN      PTR

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns5.sci.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns6.sci.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 14400  IN      NS      ns3.sci.fi.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns3.sci.fi.             14400   IN      A       195.74.0.10
ns5.sci.fi.             14400   IN      A       213.192.189.2
ns6.sci.fi.             14400   IN      A       195.74.0.59

;; Query time: 375 msec
;; SERVER: 195.74.0.10#53(195.74.0.10)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 29 14:07:38 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 151

# dig +norecurse @ns5.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5

; <<>> DiG 9.6.1 <<>> +norecurse @ns5.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26753
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa.     IN      PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qntsrv2.qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     ns1.qnet.fi.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns3.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns2.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns1.qnet.fi.

;; Query time: 422 msec
;; SERVER: 213.192.189.2#53(213.192.189.2)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 29 14:07:47 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 154

# dig +norecurse @ns6.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5

; <<>> DiG 9.6.1 <<>> +norecurse @ns6.sci.fi. -x 62.142.220.5
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38750
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa.     IN      PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     qntsrv2.qnet.fi.
5.220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN     PTR     ns1.qnet.fi.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns1.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns3.qnet.fi.
220.142.62.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns2.qnet.fi.

;; Query time: 303 msec
;; SERVER: 195.74.0.59#53(195.74.0.59)
;; WHEN: Thu Jul 29 14:07:51 2010


...that 2 out of 3 name servers on delegation level are answering to requests. I would make sure that sci.fi. name servers stop answering to queries which they are supposed to delegate.

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