cve-2011-2464 affected the 9.4-ESV-R4-P1?

2011-07-05 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi all,
on the ISC website i don't see that the 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 is affected by the 
CVE-2011-2464 is it because it's not really affected? or it's affected but i 
don't see it on versions affected because the 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 has it's EOL date 
to jun2011.

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI.


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RE: bind-users Digest, Vol 902, Issue 1

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext

Thanks for the answer,
@ Andreas i made the test and i have the same performance as OS 64 bind 64.
NB: when i reach the maximum throughput i still have enough free RAM, free CPU, 
free NIC capacity. So the limit is in Bind. What to do to reach more capacity?
Tests:
Test1: OS 64 bit, bind 64 bit == 5 qps
Test2: OS 32 bit, bind 32 bit == 7 qps
Test3: OS 64 bit, bind 32 bit == 5 qps

Regards 
Issam Harrathi.



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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:16:01 +0200
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Subject: Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?
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Zitat von Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Ryan Novosielski novos...@umdnj.edu wrote:
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 On 06/28/2011 12:30 PM, David Sparro wrote:
 On 6/28/2011 11:15 AM, iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm testing the same version of bind 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 on two server, one is
 a 32 bit (on which i have a redhat 32 bit) and the second a 64 bit
 server on which i have a redhat 64 bit.
 on the 32 bit i reach 7 qps but on the 64 bit i only reach 5 qps
 (using resperf) and also with tcpreplay.
 Is it normal that bind when compiled and installed on a 32 bit server
 have better performance than bind when compiled and installed on a 64
 bit server.
 the only diff?rence between the two server is 64 bit vs 32 bit ( same
 RAM, same Disk, same NIC,...) and CPU is better on the 64 bit (2 Intel
 E5310 quad-core 1.6Ghz) than the 32 bit(2 Intel Xeon duad-core 2.33Ghz).
 Thanks.


 The 32 bit rig is faster (2.33Ghz).

 My understanding is that 64-bit is NOT faster in most cases, and only
 makes some things possible (addressing large amounts of memory is one
 stand-out) that are not possible with 32-bit. If bind is not going to be
 using over 4GB of RAM by itself, my understanding is that running 64-bit
 will merely add overhead. I realize that is a pretty big generalization,
 so feel free to correct me if you know better.

 I'll take it a step farther. In my experience running  code in 64-bit
 mode is USUALLY slightly slower than running it in 32-bit mode on the
 same hardware. This is mostly because of the added data that must be
 moved for 64-bit operations. It also means the 64-bit binaries are
 larger, often by a significant amount.

 I recommend sticking with 32-bit systems unless you have a specific
 need for 64-bit capacity.

My recommendation would be use a 64Bit OS, but 32Bit applications as  
long as they don't need a large amount of memory. One should not  
install a 32Bit OS on a server today until it is a embeded device or  
something similar.

Regards

Andreas




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Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext
 

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Thanks for the answer,
@ Andreas i made the test and i have the same performance as OS 64 bind 64.
NB: when i reach the maximum throughput i still have enough free RAM, free CPU, 
free NIC capacity. So the limit is in Bind. What to do to reach more capacity?
Tests:
Test1: OS 64 bit, bind 64 bit == 5 qps
Test2: OS 32 bit, bind 32 bit == 7 qps
Test3: OS 64 bit, bind 32 bit == 5 qps

Regards
Issam Harrathi.



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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:16:01 +0200
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Zitat von Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Ryan Novosielski novos...@umdnj.edu wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 On 06/28/2011 12:30 PM, David Sparro wrote:
 On 6/28/2011 11:15 AM, iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 I'm testing the same version of bind 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 on two server, one is
 a 32 bit (on which i have a redhat 32 bit) and the second a 64 bit
 server on which i have a redhat 64 bit.
 on the 32 bit i reach 7 qps but on the 64 bit i only reach 5 qps
 (using resperf) and also with tcpreplay.
 Is it normal that bind when compiled and installed on a 32 bit server
 have better performance than bind when compiled and installed on a 64
 bit server.
 the only diff?rence between the two server is 64 bit vs 32 bit ( same
 RAM, same Disk, same NIC,...) and CPU is better on the 64 bit (2 Intel
 E5310 quad-core 1.6Ghz) than the 32 bit(2 Intel Xeon duad-core 2.33Ghz).
 Thanks.


 The 32 bit rig is faster (2.33Ghz).

 My understanding is that 64-bit is NOT faster in most cases, and only
 makes some things possible (addressing large amounts of memory is one
 stand-out) that are not possible with 32-bit. If bind is not going to be
 using over 4GB of RAM by itself, my understanding is that running 64-bit
 will merely add overhead. I realize that is a pretty big generalization,
 so feel free to correct me if you know better.

 I'll take it a step farther. In my experience running  code in 64-bit
 mode is USUALLY slightly slower than running it in 32-bit mode on the
 same hardware. This is mostly because of the added data that must be
 moved for 64-bit operations. It also means the 64-bit binaries are
 larger, often by a significant amount.

 I recommend sticking with 32-bit systems unless you have a specific
 need for 64-bit capacity.

My recommendation would be use a 64Bit OS, but 32Bit applications as  
long as they don't need a large amount of memory. One should not  
install a 32Bit OS on a server today until it is a embeded device or  
something similar.

Regards

Andreas




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Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext
The 64 bit server(server1) is faster than the 32 bit server (server2).

Tests:
Test1: OS 64 bit, bind 64 bit == 5 qps server1
Test2: OS 32 bit, bind 32 bit == 7 qps server2
Test3: OS 64 bit, bind 32 bit == 5 qps server1

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On 29.06.11 11:04, iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
@ Andreas i made the test and i have the same performance as OS 64 bind 64.

NB: when i reach the maximum throughput i still have enough free RAM, 
 free CPU, free NIC capacity.  So the limit is in Bind.  What to do to 
 reach more capacity?

Get faster CPU. Or get a L3 switch and more machines behind it.

Tests:
Test1: OS 64 bit, bind 64 bit == 5 qps
Test2: OS 32 bit, bind 32 bit == 7 qps
Test3: OS 64 bit, bind 32 bit == 5 qps

Did you try this on the same maching, or are you still using 32-bit OS 
on machine with faster CPU and 64-bit OS on slower CPU-machine?

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Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext
on server1(64 bit) i have 2 Intel E5310 quad-core 1.6Ghz and on server2(32 bit) 
i have 2 Intel Xeon dual-core 2.33Ghz.
means 8*1.6 Ghz on server1 and 4*2.33 on server2.

8*1.6 is better and faster than 4*2.33, no?

Regards
Issam Harrathi.



 The 64 bit server(server1) is faster than the 32 bit server (server2).

Really? I thought you said the 64 bit server had a CPU with 1.6GHz cores,
and the 32 bit server had 2.33GHz cores?

Regards
Eivind Olsen


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Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext
When i start Bind on server2 i do it with -n 4 ( to use 4 thread) and on 
server1 i start bind with -n 8. And i see then on munin that the load is shared 
on all cores.
For the load-server it's another server let's call it server 3. I know that 
tcpreplay is monothread so i lunch 2*25000 qps for example. And i use also 
resperf for testing, what i have with resperf and tcpreplay is nearly the same.

What's important is that i 'm using always the same server3 to load the server1 
and server2 (not at the same time, and using the same pcap-- rewrite twice to 
meet the mac@ of server1 and server2-- ) and i start with -n 4 on the 4 cores 
server and with -n 8 on the 8 cores. But i found best performance on the 32 bit 
server2 (4*2.33).

Other information i begin the test only after sending for a few minutes 2 
qps, so then i have only 5% of request that causes recursion, and about 15% 
nxdoamin answer, finally 80% of answer from cache. This is available for the 2 
server since it's the same original pcap written twice.

Do i have to use bind compiled and running on 32 bit server to have better 
performance rather than bind compiled and running on 64 bit server?

and to be more clear this is the last core of the 64 bit server:

processor   : 7
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5310  @ 1.60GHz
stepping: 11
cpu MHz : 1600.058
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 4
core id : 3
cpu cores   : 4
apicid  : 7
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall lm constant_tsc 
pni monitor ds_cpl vmx tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3177.52
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

and this is the last core of the 32 bit server:

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5140  @ 2.33GHz
stepping: 11
cpu MHz : 2333.389
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 3
siblings: 2
core id : 7
cpu cores   : 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc pni 
monitor ds_cpl est tm2 xtpr
bogomips: 4666.97

Regards.
Issam Harrathi




Issam Harrathi wrote:

 on server1(64 bit) i have 2 Intel E5310 quad-core 1.6Ghz and on server2(32
 bit) i have 2 Intel Xeon dual-core 2.33Ghz.
 means 8*1.6 Ghz on server1 and 4*2.33 on server2.
 8*1.6 is better and faster than 4*2.33, no?

You can only do maths like that if you assume that everything is
multithreaded _and_ capable of spreading to multiple cores without any
overhead.

I've mentioned earlier that for example BIND only scales up to about 4
threads. Based on this, your maths example would be (kind of simplified):

64 bit vs 32 bit:
4*1.6GHz vs 4*2.33GHz

Also, you mentioned using tcpreplay, which is also apparantly
single-threaded , making the comparison like this:

1*1.6GHz vs 1*2.33GHz.

Regards
Eivind Olsen


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RE: Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-29 Thread iharrathi.ext
As asked, i will made a test with os 32 bit on the same server as the the 64 
bit, and will post this result here.
Thanks for all for your answers.
Regards.
Issam Harrathi.


De : HARRATHI Issam Ext OLNC/DPS
Envoyé : mercredi 29 juin 2011 16:17
À : 's...@whgl.uni-frankfurt.de'; 'Ryan Novosielski'; 'eiv...@aminor.no'; 
'dufb...@telia.net'; 'lst_ho...@kwsoft.de'
Cc : 'bind-users@lists.isc.org'
Objet : Re: better performance with 32 bit ! why?

When i start Bind on server2 i do it with -n 4 ( to use 4 thread) and on 
server1 i start bind with -n 8. And i see then on munin that the load is shared 
on all cores.
For the load-server it's another server let's call it server 3. I know that 
tcpreplay is monothread so i lunch 2*25000 qps for example. And i use also 
resperf for testing, what i have with resperf and tcpreplay is nearly the same.

What's important is that i 'm using always the same server3 to load the server1 
and server2 (not at the same time, and using the same pcap-- rewrite twice to 
meet the mac@ of server1 and server2-- ) and i start with -n 4 on the 4 cores 
server and with -n 8 on the 8 cores. But i found best performance on the 32 bit 
server2 (4*2.33).

Other information i begin the test only after sending for a few minutes 2 
qps, so then i have only 5% of request that causes recursion, and about 15% 
nxdoamin answer, finally 80% of answer from cache. This is available for the 2 
server since it's the same original pcap written twice.

Do i have to use bind compiled and running on 32 bit server to have better 
performance rather than bind compiled and running on 64 bit server?

and to be more clear this is the last core of the 64 bit server:

processor   : 7
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU   E5310  @ 1.60GHz
stepping: 11
cpu MHz : 1600.058
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 1
siblings: 4
core id : 3
cpu cores   : 4
apicid  : 7
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall lm constant_tsc 
pni monitor ds_cpl vmx tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3177.52
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

and this is the last core of the 32 bit server:

processor   : 3
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5140  @ 2.33GHz
stepping: 11
cpu MHz : 2333.389
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 3
siblings: 2
core id : 7
cpu cores   : 2
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat 
pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc pni 
monitor ds_cpl est tm2 xtpr
bogomips: 4666.97

Regards.
Issam Harrathi




Issam Harrathi wrote:

 on server1(64 bit) i have 2 Intel E5310 quad-core 1.6Ghz and on server2(32
 bit) i have 2 Intel Xeon dual-core 2.33Ghz.
 means 8*1.6 Ghz on server1 and 4*2.33 on server2.
 8*1.6 is better and faster than 4*2.33, no?

You can only do maths like that if you assume that everything is
multithreaded _and_ capable of spreading to multiple cores without any
overhead.

I've mentioned earlier that for example BIND only scales up to about 4
threads. Based on this, your maths example would be (kind of simplified):

64 bit vs 32 bit:
4*1.6GHz vs 4*2.33GHz

Also, you mentioned using tcpreplay, which is also apparantly
single-threaded , making the comparison like this:

1*1.6GHz vs 1*2.33GHz.

Regards
Eivind Olsen


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better performance with 32 bit ! why?

2011-06-28 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi all,
I'm testing the same version of bind 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 on two server, one is a 32 
bit (on which i have a redhat 32 bit) and the second a 64 bit server on which  
i have a redhat 64 bit.
on the 32 bit i reach 7 qps  but on the 64 bit i only reach 5 qps 
(using resperf) and also with tcpreplay.

Is it normal that bind when compiled and installed on a 32 bit server have 
better performance than bind when compiled and installed on a 64 bit server.
the only différence between the two server is 64 bit vs 32 bit ( same RAM, same 
Disk, same NIC,...) and CPU is better on the 64 bit (2 Intel E5310 quad-core 
1.6Ghz) than the 32 bit(2 Intel Xeon duad-core 2.33Ghz).

Thanks.


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where is the bind 9.4-ESV-R4-P1?

2011-06-07 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi,
i can't find the version 9.4-ESV-R4-P1 even here: http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/
Last week this version was on the website(http://www.isc.org/downloads/all).

why they remove it? I know it's EOL but at least i have to find it here 
http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/

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RE: forward first: iterative or recursive query

2011-05-06 Thread iharrathi.ext
Thanks for the answer but:

 *
In the example i post yesterday: on my server1 the recursion is enabled 
(recursion yes), but the server1 can't recurse because i stop it on firewall 
and it can't contact the outside.
 *
You say Don't use forwarding from a recursive server to a non-recursive 
server but when my server1 is recursive (and the firewall allow it to contact 
the outside), and server2 don't recurse because in it's conf recursion is set 
to no, when i ask my server1 about ftp.example.comftp://ftp.example.com (dig 
@0 ftp.example.comftp://ftp.example.com) , server1 forward the query to 
server2 which answer by the CNAME www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com and then 
server1 recurse to find the IP of www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com. and 
everything works fine.
 *
you say If server 2 is auth-only or otherwise can't resolve the address of 
www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/, then forwarding a query to it is not going to 
work. No as i say when server1 really recurse ( recursion yes, and the 
firewall allow the server1 to contact outside) and server2 don't recurse 
(recursion no) all is ok: server1 forward the query to server2 which answer by 
the CNAME www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/ and then server1 recurse to find the 
IP of www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/. and everything works fine.
 *
You say then using a stub zone for example.comhttp://example.com/ will 
work, why i will use a stub zone since  a forward do the same thing expected.

And my question is always this:
forward only; as i read means a recursive query, in other term a query with the 
RD bit is enabled. which means that when my server1 (which has recursion yes 
but can't recurse because the firewall don't allow it to contact the outside, 
which finally means server1 can't recuse) ask server2 about 
ftp.example.comftp://ftp.example.com, server2 will normally make all the work 
means he read on it's zone, then find the CNAME, then make a recursion to 
resolve the CNAME and finally send the IP to server1.
why server2 don't recurse to find the IP of www.abc.com?

thanks for your help.



De : Chris Buxton [mailto:chris.p.bux...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 5 mai 2011 19:47
À : HARRATHI Issam Ext OLNC/DPS
Cc : bind-users@lists.isc.org
Objet : Re: forward first: iterative or recursive query

If recursion is disabled, forwarding doesn't happen. I think you've confused 
some terms and configurations.

Don't use forwarding from a recursive server to a non-recursive server. Use a 
stub zone instead, if you can't rely on the recursion process to find the 
correct server to query.

If server 2 is auth-only or otherwise can't resolve the address of 
www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com, then forwarding a query to it is not going to 
work. However, if server 1 is a caching server and is able to resolve 
www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com, then using a stub zone for 
example.comhttp://example.com will work; server 2 will send the CNAME record 
to server 1, and then server 1 will resolve the final address record on its own.

Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks

On May 5, 2011, at 2:15 AM, 
iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.commailto:iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com 
iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.commailto:iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com 
wrote:

Hi,
i have a server called server1 that is acting as a cache server( recursion 
none). And i forward the zone example.comhttp://example.com to server2 which 
has recursion enabled and master on some zone like 
example.comhttp://example.com.
 this is the forwarding zone on server1:
zone example.comhttp://example.com {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { IP_of server2;  };
};
and server2 is master of the zone example.comhttp://example.com:

zone example.comhttp://example.com {
type master;
file master/db.example.com;
};


BUT the problem is here:
db.example.comhttp://db.example.com:

$ORIGIN example.comhttp://example.com.
www   A1.2.3.4
ftp  CNAME  www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/



server1 can resolve www.example.comhttp://www.example.com/, but can't resolve 
ftp.example.comftp://ftp.example.com since the server2 sends the answer which 
is www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/ and not the IP, and my server1 can't make 
recursion to resolve www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com/.

why?
from server1 when i dig on server2: dig @IP-server2 
www.example.comhttp://www.example.com/ it sends to me the IP, all is OK!!! 
but with a forwarding statement it sends only the CNAME

server1 is bind9.6-ESV-R4  et server2 bind-9.4.2

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI


De : Chris Buxton [mailto:chris.p.bux...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 4 mai 2011 08:49
À : HARRATHI Issam Ext OLNC/DPS
Cc : bind-users@lists.isc.orgmailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org
Objet : Re: forward first: iterative or recursive query

With a static-stub zone, you would get an iterative query. Forwarding always 
results in a recursive query.

How are you determining 

RE: forward first: iterative or recursive query

2011-05-05 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi,
i have a server called server1 that is acting as a cache server( recursion 
none). And i forward the zone example.com to server2 which has recursion 
enabled and master on some zone like example.com.
 this is the forwarding zone on server1:
zone example.com {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { IP_of server2;  };
};
and server2 is master of the zone example.com:

zone example.com {
type master;
file master/db.example.com;
};


BUT the problem is here:
db.example.com:

$ORIGIN example.com.
www   A1.2.3.4
ftp  CNAME  www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com



server1 can resolve www.example.comhttp://www.example.com, but can't resolve 
ftp.example.comftp://ftp.example.com since the server2 sends the answer which 
is www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com and not the IP, and my server1 can't make 
recursion to resolve www.abc.comhttp://www.abc.com.

why?
from server1 when i dig on server2: dig @IP-server2 
www.example.comhttp://www.example.com it sends to me the IP, all is OK!!! but 
with a forwarding statement it sends only the CNAME

server1 is bind9.6-ESV-R4  et server2 bind-9.4.2

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI


De : Chris Buxton [mailto:chris.p.bux...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 4 mai 2011 08:49
À : HARRATHI Issam Ext OLNC/DPS
Cc : bind-users@lists.isc.org
Objet : Re: forward first: iterative or recursive query

With a static-stub zone, you would get an iterative query. Forwarding always 
results in a recursive query.

How are you determining that your server is sending an iterative query?

Can we (the list) see your named.conf?

Regards,
Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks

On May 3, 2011, at 5:21 AM, 
iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.commailto:iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com 
iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.commailto:iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com 
wrote:

Hi
from the book DNS and Bind 5th edition [french] (o'reilly)
I read that the forward with the mode first sends a recursive query to the 
servers on the forwarders list, but as i see it only sends an iterative query. 
Also with forward only it send an itérative query.
So forward first send an itérative or recursive query?

And how i can send a recursive query with the statement forward ( without using 
static-stub)
I'm using bind-9.6-ESV-R4

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI.


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forward first: iterative or recursive query

2011-05-03 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi
from the book DNS and Bind 5th edition [french] (o'reilly)
I read that the forward with the mode first sends a recursive query to the 
servers on the forwarders list, but as i see it only sends an iterative query. 
Also with forward only it send an itérative query.
So forward first send an itérative or recursive query?

And how i can send a recursive query with the statement forward ( without using 
static-stub)
I'm using bind-9.6-ESV-R4

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI.


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[Bind 9.8.0] RPZ deny ALL

2011-04-27 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi,
i want to implement a bind server that only answer query on 
www.google.comhttp://www.google.com and for the rest answer 127.0.0.17.
my solution:

www.google.comhttp://www.google.com  IN  CNAME   
www.google.comhttp://www.google.com.
*.com  IN  A   127.0.0.17
*.fr   IN  A   127.0.0.17
*.org  IN  A   127.0.0.17
*.be   IN  A   127.0.0.17
*.de   IN  A   127.0.0.17
*.ca   IN  A   127.0.0.17
...

offcourse this work but i have to list all the TLD.

can I put :
.INA127.0.0.17

or something like that to rewrite the root. means my conf became something like 
that:
.INA127.0.0.17
www.google.comhttp://www.google.com/  IN  CNAME   
www.google.comhttp://www.google.com.


which is better than listing all the TLD.


Thanks.
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Re: priority with A record?

2011-04-06 Thread iharrathi.ext

Thanks Kevin for the answer,
But rrset-order, can only disble the round robin (cyclic=round robin | random= 
random | fixed=disable round robin)
And sorlist prioritise basing on IP of the client, i don't see anyway how to 
send( for example) 75% of http traffic to bigserver1.mysite.com and 25% of 
traffic to smallserver1.mysite.com
And for the SRV which make exacly what i want, it's not supported by browser.
May be with bind10 we will have this feature for A record like what we have now 
for MX!

Thanks.
Issam HARRATHI




Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:40:22 -0400
From: Kevin Darcy k...@chrysler.com
Subject: Re: priority with A record?
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
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On 4/5/2011 8:23 AM, iharrathi@orange-ftgroup.com wrote:
 Hi,
 can i make priority on a A or NS record? Since with round robin if i 
 put  the same record record 2 or 3 time, Bind ignore the duplicates 
 Records, means
  this:

 wikipediaNSns2.wikimedia.org.

 wikipediaNSns0.wikimedia.org.

 is the same like this:

 wikipediaNSns2.wikimedia.org.

 wikipediaNSns0.wikimedia.org.

 wikipediaNSns0.wikimedia.org.

 In this 2 case it will send 50% of traffic to ns2 and 50% to ns0;

 Is there anyway to enable priority on A or NS record?

 Thanks.


For NS records, there is no way to do this in BIND, and it's completely 
unnecessary anyway, since every major DNS full-resolver implementation will 
keep track of how fast nameservers respond -- based on round-trip times, known 
as RTTs -- and prefer faster-responding nameservers over slower-responding 
ones. So the load spreads itself automatically, and failures -- which are 
assessed as really bad performance -- are routed around.

For A/ records, there are mechanisms to control the order in which the 
records are presented. See sortlist and rrset-order (not sure that 
rrset-order even exists in later versions of BIND, since I've never used it 
in production). However, these are only practical on tightly-controlled 
intranets, where all of the BIND-instance configurations can be kept in sync 
with each other, otherwise one BIND instance may undo the careful 
address-record ordering that another performs. rrset-order and sortlist are 
pretty much useless for Internet names, since the vast majority Internet users 
get their DNS through intermediate resolvers, which will usually randomize or 
round-robin the responses whenever they are answering from their caches.

As another poster pointed out, SRV records provide the capability for the 
domain owner to implement per-name failover and weighting of targets, in the 
DNS data itself. But, thusfar the DNS community hasn't had much success getting 
client-software developers (e.g. browser
developers) to adopt SRV record support. Meanwhile, certain network-hardware 
companies (including among others a certain huge router
vendor) rake in big money with their sledgehammer load-balancer device 
approach to the problem. There are software approaches to network 
load-balancing as well, but I have no direct experience with those.

 
 
 
 - Kevin

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Maximum limit of query per second

2011-04-06 Thread iharrathi.ext
 
Hi,
Is there any limit for bind for handling a big number of qps (query per second).
Have some one reach the number 10 qps for example. Of course we suppose 
that i have a very powerfull server, so the problem will not be the materiel, 
and do we have to tune BIND (ISC_SOCKET_MAXSOCKET, ISC_SOCKET_MAXEVENTS)?
Thanks;
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Re: priority with A record?

2011-04-06 Thread iharrathi.ext
Or, get a DNS balancer that will send balance the IP addresses sorted in
random, but weighed order. Note that there are many technical and 
logicalproblems with DNS balancers.
Do you mean that with rrset-order random i can add weight, if yes i don't find 
any documents that talks about that (nothing in the arm.pdf file)

Thanks.
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priority with A record?

2011-04-05 Thread iharrathi.ext
Hi,
can i make priority on a A or NS record? Since with round robin if i put  the 
same record record 2 or 3 time, Bind ignore the duplicates Records, means
 this:
wikipedia  NS   ns2.wikimedia.org.
wikipedia  NS   ns0.wikimedia.org.

is the same like this:

wikipedia  NS   ns2.wikimedia.org.
wikipedia  NS   ns0.wikimedia.org.
wikipedia  NS   ns0.wikimedia.org.



In this 2 case it will send 50% of traffic to ns2 and 50% to ns0;
Is there anyway to enable priority on A or NS record?
Thanks.


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