Re: internal network PTR records, necessary?

2013-08-14 Thread Chris Thompson

On Aug 14 2013, SM wrote:


Hi James,
At 19:06 13-08-2013, James Chase wrote:
I noticed if I do a reverse lookup on an internal IP it seems to 
reference an iana server. Do we have a misconfiguration to be going 
out there for an answer? Could it be that this iana server was not 
responding monday morning?


See RFC 6303 and RFC 6305.


Also see the BIND documentation on automatic empty zones.

In BIND 9.9, empty reverse zones for RFC1918 ranges will be defined
by default. In earlier versions, since  9.6-ESV-R6, 9.7.5 or 9.8.1
respectively, the same will happen only if you include the option
empty-zones-enable yes; explicitly.

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Re: internal network PTR records, necessary?

2013-08-14 Thread James Chase
Thanks for the help figuring out where to direct my research! I'll check
all those sources out. Really appreciate it


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Chris Thompson c...@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 On Aug 14 2013, SM wrote:

  Hi James,
 At 19:06 13-08-2013, James Chase wrote:

 I noticed if I do a reverse lookup on an internal IP it seems to
 reference an iana server. Do we have a misconfiguration to be going out
 there for an answer? Could it be that this iana server was not responding
 monday morning?


 See RFC 6303 and RFC 6305.


 Also see the BIND documentation on automatic empty zones.

 In BIND 9.9, empty reverse zones for RFC1918 ranges will be defined
 by default. In earlier versions, since  9.6-ESV-R6, 9.7.5 or 9.8.1
 respectively, the same will happen only if you include the option
 empty-zones-enable yes; explicitly.

 --
 Chris Thompson
 Email: c...@cam.ac.uk




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internal network PTR records, necessary?

2013-08-13 Thread James Chase
This isn't a problem with bind, that I'm aware of but I was hoping someone
could shed a little DNS expertise on a situation that happened Monday
morning. I'll be very brief: We started experiencing problems with
connectivity from our application servers to a couple database servers. I
narrowed the problem down to remote logins over tcp/ip and then by noticing
SSH was also connecting slowly, found that the SSH connection was hanging
doing a reverse lookup on the internal ip address. After doing some mysql
research I was able to find the option to tell mysql to skip this lookup
and it solved our problem

My dillema has been trying to figure out why the issue started in the first
place. There have been no DNS changes for months, and we have never kept
PTR records for our internal IPs at our nameservers. This has always just
worked, so why would these lookups start hanging monday morning without
any configuration changes? Later in the day the SSH connections were quick
again within the internal network. Could it just have been that our DNS
server wasn't functioning properly for a period of time? We are monitoring
this server with nagios so I would be surprised. Should I be concerned
about not having internal PTR records? I have never even considered the
necessity of setting this up.

I noticed if I do a reverse lookup on an internal IP it seems to reference
an iana server. Do we have a misconfiguration to be going out there for an
answer? Could it be that this iana server was not responding monday morning?

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-20.P1.el5_8.6  -x 192.168.1.50
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 1252
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;50.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN  PTR

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
168.192.in-addr.arpa.   300 IN  SOA prisoner.iana.org.
hostmaster.root-servers.org. 2002040800 1800 900 604800 604800

;; Query time: 147 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.180#53(192.168.1.180)
;; WHEN: Tue Aug 13 22:00:25 2013
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 120

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Re: internal network PTR records, necessary?

2013-08-13 Thread SM

Hi James,
At 19:06 13-08-2013, James Chase wrote:
I noticed if I do a reverse lookup on an internal IP it seems to 
reference an iana server. Do we have a misconfiguration to be going 
out there for an answer? Could it be that this iana server was not 
responding monday morning?


See RFC 6303 and RFC 6305.

Regards,
-sm


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