Re: Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread Andrew Latham
Read about it at
https://source.isc.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=bind9.git;a=blob;f=lib/dns/rootns.c;h=d86d0172d10625050ff1938c1869ce28921a1226;hb=HEAD

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:29 AM, King, Harold Clyde (Hal) 
wrote:

> How does Bind update the root servers? Does it go out and check, or is a
> release made for each change?
>
>
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> On 8/15/17, 11:02, "bind-users on behalf of Alan Clegg" <
> bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf of a...@clegg.com> wrote:
>
> Root hints have been built in forever.  (and that's "forever" in
> Internet years)
>
> On 8/15/17 10:58 AM, Duleep Thilakarathne wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can observe, bind can resolve host names without following entry
> in
> > named.conf. could anyone help me to understand this default behavior.
> >
> >
> > zone "." {
> >   type hint;
> >   file "root.servers";
> > };
> >
> > regards
> > DT
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Re: Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
>
>
> On 15 August 2017 at 11:29, King, Harold Clyde (Hal)  wrote:
>>
>> How does Bind update the root servers? Does it go out and check, or is a
>> release made for each change?
>
>
> Yes. :)
>
> BIND has a compiled-in root hints list that is kept up to date at each
> release, which can be overridden with a zone of type 'hint'.   It also does
> what's calling "priming queries", which is to contact one of the known root
> servers from the hints list, and retrieve and up-to-date authoritative NS
> set for the root zone from the root zone itself.

... and for gory details on priming queries, see RFC8109 (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8109/ )


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Re: Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 15 August 2017 at 11:29, King, Harold Clyde (Hal)  wrote:

> How does Bind update the root servers? Does it go out and check, or is a
> release made for each change?
>

Yes. :)

BIND has a compiled-in root hints list that is kept up to date at each
release, which can be overridden with a zone of type 'hint'.   It also does
what's calling "priming queries", which is to contact one of the known root
servers from the hints list, and retrieve and up-to-date authoritative NS
set for the root zone from the root zone itself.
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Re: Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread King, Harold Clyde (Hal)
How does Bind update the root servers? Does it go out and check, or is a 
release made for each change?


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Shared Systems Services

The University of Tennessee
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Phone : 974-1599
Helpdesk 24/7 : 974-9900

On 8/15/17, 11:02, "bind-users on behalf of Alan Clegg" 
 wrote:

Root hints have been built in forever.  (and that's "forever" in
Internet years)

On 8/15/17 10:58 AM, Duleep Thilakarathne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I can observe, bind can resolve host names without following entry  in
> named.conf. could anyone help me to understand this default behavior.
> 
> 
> zone "." {
>   type hint;
>   file "root.servers";
> };
> 
> regards
> DT
> 
> 
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Re: Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread Alan Clegg
Root hints have been built in forever.  (and that's "forever" in
Internet years)

On 8/15/17 10:58 AM, Duleep Thilakarathne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I can observe, bind can resolve host names without following entry  in
> named.conf. could anyone help me to understand this default behavior.
> 
> 
> zone "." {
>   type hint;
>   file "root.servers";
> };
> 
> regards
> DT
> 
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Can bind works without defining root servers

2017-08-15 Thread Duleep Thilakarathne
Hi,

I can observe, bind can resolve host names without following entry  in
named.conf. could anyone help me to understand this default behavior.


zone "." {
  type hint;
  file "root.servers";
};

regards
DT
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