Re: Help with the subzone problem

2010-11-25 Thread Eivind Olsen
 But F5's 3DNS can't setup the NS records for games.abc.com.
 That means, when query to:
 dig games.abc.com ns @ns1.example.com
 get nothing.

I'm not familiar with F5's 3DNS, but in general I'd expect the query you
made above to work. Do you get _any_ response from ns1.example.com? If you
query it directly with dig, asking for www.games.abc.com, or asking for
the SOA record of games.abc.com ?

If you can't get an answer out of that F5 thingie, I'd at least start by
looking there.

If you could give us the real names, we could also check the delegation of
the domain, and we could check that we got sensible answers from your
authoritative nameservers for both abc.com and games.abc.com

Regards
Eivind Olsen

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Re: Help with the subzone problem

2010-11-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25.11.10 10:10, Tech W. wrote:
 We have a zone in Bind, for example, abc.com
 We designate a subzone of it to another dns server, for eaxmple, F5's 3DNS.
 
 The corresponding RR in Bind is:
 
 games.abc.com.  IN  NS  3600  ns1.example.com.
 games.abc.com.  IN  NS  3600  ns2.example.com.

so, there are glue NS records in abc.com for games.abc.com, right?

 But F5's 3DNS can't setup the NS records for games.abc.com.
 That means, when query to:
 
 dig games.abc.com ns @ns1.example.com

are the NS records for games.abc.com also in the games.abc.com ?
They must be there, games.abc.com will not fetch glue records from abc.com.

And in fact, since games.abc.com is authoritative for games.abc.com (of
course... those in abc.com are JUST GLUE), there are probably no NS records
for games.abc.com.

 get nothing.

try dig any games.abc.com @ns1.example.com
 
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Re: Help with the subzone problem

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Larson
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
uh...@fantomas.skwrote:

 On 25.11.10 10:10, Tech W. wrote:
  We have a zone in Bind, for example, abc.com
  We designate a subzone of it to another dns server, for eaxmple, F5's
 3DNS.
 
  The corresponding RR in Bind is:
 
  games.abc.com.  IN  NS  3600  ns1.example.com.
  games.abc.com.  IN  NS  3600  ns2.example.com.

 so, there are glue NS records in abc.com for games.abc.com, right?

  But F5's 3DNS can't setup the NS records for games.abc.com.
  That means, when query to:
 
  dig games.abc.com ns @ns1.example.com

 are the NS records for games.abc.com also in the games.abc.com ?
 They must be there, games.abc.com will not fetch glue records from abc.com
 .

 And in fact, since games.abc.com is authoritative for games.abc.com (of
 course... those in abc.com are JUST GLUE), there are probably no NS
 records
 for games.abc.com.

  get nothing.

 try dig any games.abc.com @ns1.example.com


There may be a simpler answer.

If your NS resource record really looks like what was posted, it is in error
and the zone shouldn't even load.  Check your logs for this when you start
named.

I suspect that the 3600 is an explicit TTL for the record, but this value
shouldn't be part of the resource record data, the part following the RR
type.  The record should look more like:

  games.abc.com.  3600 IN  NS   ns1.example.com.
  games.abc.com.  3600 IN  NS   ns2.example.com.

Where the explicit TTL follows the domain name on the left hand side.  Run
your zone file through named-checkzone to look for problems with your
data.
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