Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130724094623.gb12...@nic.fr>, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > > > This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit > > like all those "spf breaks forwa

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread SM
Hi Dan, At 03:07 24-07-2013, McDonald, Dan wrote: SPF RR types are already standards track - see RFC 6652. An informational rfc warning that the standard is not being adopted should be seen as a call to fix the admins, not discard the standard. The SPF specification is not on the Standards Tra

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130724093737.ga12...@nic.fr>, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:01:47PM +1000, > Mark Andrews wrote > a message of 56 lines which said: > > > It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named will > > complain if both types are not present. > > Th

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:48 AM, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote > a message of 28 lines which said: > >> This was discussed here already, [...] >> The SPF RR is already >> here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR t

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:39:53PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote a message of 28 lines which said: > This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit > like all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already > here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:01:47PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote a message of 56 lines which said: > It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named will > complain if both types are not present. Then, named is now wrong, since RFC 6686. ___

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-23 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 7/23/13 7:36 AM, "Matus UHLAR - fantomas" wrote: >> In article , >> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >>> No, it does not. If a mail gets delivered to address, which is sending it >>> further ("forwarding it"), the envelope sender has to be changed, because >>> it's not the original sender who s

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
In article , Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: No, it does not. If a mail gets delivered to address, which is sending it further ("forwarding it"), the envelope sender has to be changed, because it's not the original sender who sends the another mail. Forwarding without changing envelope address is

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 08:50 -0500, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > > This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like > > all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is > > preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. > > > It is not Fear, Un

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > On 7/22/2013 11:17 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like >>all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is >>preferred over

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 7/22/2013 11:17 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like >>all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is >>preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. On 22.07.13 08:50, Barry S.

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >>This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like > >>all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is > >>preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. > > On 22.07.13 08:50, Barry S. Finkel

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. On 22.07.13 08:50, Barry S. Finkel wrote: It is not Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that "SPF br

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Barry S. Finkel
This was discussed here already, and imho this is anti-spf bullshit like all those "spf breaks forwarding" FUD. The SPF RR is already here and is preferred over TXT that is generik RR type, unlike SPF. It is not Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that "SPF breaks forwarding". SPF *DOES* break forwa

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Jason Hellenthal wrote: It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT "SPF ..." You now do ... SPF "SPF ..." On 22.07.13 11:26, G.W. Haywood wrote: Caution! The SPF record type is near enough dead. See in particular RFC6686 paragraph 5.6; paragraph 6.2; and Appendix A

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-22 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Jason Hellenthal wrote: It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT "SPF ..." You now do ... SPF "SPF ..." Caution! The SPF record type is near enough dead. See in particular RFC6686 paragraph 5.6; paragraph 6.2; and Appendix A point 4. -- 73, Ged. __

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread Jason Hellenthal
Basically a SPF record type in place that's new but you could carry both for new and older clients. -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jul 22, 2013, at 0:48, SH Development wrote: > I just started noticing these in my log: > > 7/21/

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 02:51 -0400, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > It's exactly as it says... > > > Instead of > ... TXT "SPF ..." > > > You now do > > > ... SPF "SPF ..." > > Mark Andrews wrote: No. It has a legacy SPF TXT record. It SHOULD have record of type SPF as per RFC 4408. Named w

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread Jason Hellenthal
It's exactly as it says... Instead of ... TXT "SPF ..." You now do ... SPF "SPF ..." -- Jason Hellenthal Inbox: jhellent...@dataix.net Voice: +1 (616) 953-0176 JJH48-ARIN On Jul 22, 2013, at 0:48, SH Development wrote: > I just started noticing these in my log: > > 7/21/13 11:33:13

Re: New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , SH Development writes: > I just started noticing these in my log: > > 7/21/13 11:33:13 PM named[355] 21-Jul-2013 23:33:13.646 general: > warning: zone domain.com/IN: 'domain.com' found S > PF/TXT record but no SPF/SPF record found, add matching type SPF record > > The zone

New warning message...

2013-07-21 Thread SH Development
I just started noticing these in my log: 7/21/13 11:33:13 PM named[355] 21-Jul-2013 23:33:13.646 general: warning: zone domain.com/IN: 'domain.com' found SPF/TXT record but no SPF/SPF record found, add matching type SPF record The zone does have an SPF record. I'm not sure I understan