Re: OT: cached memory

2012-06-14 Thread Michael Graff

On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Dan Letkeman wrote:

 I understand the concept, as I have read many documents like that.  I
 am more interested in a real world example of how much free memory for
 caching is recommended for an average server.
 
 Dan.

It depends on many things, but what I'd do to find the optimum cache size is:

(1)  Start with some limit, say 128 MB.
(2)  Observe the server's performance over time, and memory usage.
(3)  Pick some reasonable time, like I want it to hit the max memory size in 3 
days or one week
(4)  If it reaches the maximum too quickly, add more cache size.

I suspect this is one metric that would help greatly to add to the XML stats... 
 Cache hit rate is sort of a standard metric.

--Michael

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OT: cached memory

2012-06-13 Thread Dan Letkeman
Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has a real world example of how much cached
memory a server really needs?

If I run the command free -m it shows that it is using all of the
memory on the server and most of it is cached.  I understand the
concept and the reasoning, but what I would like to know is how much
is a reasonable amount to have?  I am assuming that if I gave this
server 10 times the amount it would eventually cache that as well.


  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  3017   2961 56  0158   2434
-/+ buffers/cache:368   2649
Swap: 5023  0   5023


Thanks,
Dan.
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Re: OT: cached memory

2012-06-13 Thread Mike Hoskins
this is a common source of confusion and more of a linuxism...it will fill
all available memory with cache, and reclaim as needed.  you can adjust it
somewhat with various sysctls.

http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux%20Memory%20Management.htm

-Original Message-
From: Dan Letkeman danletke...@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:50 AM
To: bind-users bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: OT: cached memory

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has a real world example of how much cached
memory a server really needs?

If I run the command free -m it shows that it is using all of the
memory on the server and most of it is cached.  I understand the
concept and the reasoning, but what I would like to know is how much
is a reasonable amount to have?  I am assuming that if I gave this
server 10 times the amount it would eventually cache that as well.


  total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem:  3017   2961 56  0158   2434
-/+ buffers/cache:368   2649
Swap: 5023  0   5023


Thanks,
Dan.
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Re: OT: cached memory

2012-06-13 Thread Dan Letkeman
I understand the concept, as I have read many documents like that.  I
am more interested in a real world example of how much free memory for
caching is recommended for an average server.

Dan.


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Mike Hoskins micho...@cisco.com wrote:
 this is a common source of confusion and more of a linuxism...it will fill
 all available memory with cache, and reclaim as needed.  you can adjust it
 somewhat with various sysctls.

 http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux%20Memory%20Management.htm

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Letkeman danletke...@gmail.com
 Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:50 AM
 To: bind-users bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: OT: cached memory

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone has a real world example of how much cached
memory a server really needs?

If I run the command free -m it shows that it is using all of the
memory on the server and most of it is cached.  I understand the
concept and the reasoning, but what I would like to know is how much
is a reasonable amount to have?  I am assuming that if I gave this
server 10 times the amount it would eventually cache that as well.


                  total       used       free     shared    buffers
cached
Mem:          3017       2961         56          0        158       2434
-/+ buffers/cache:        368       2649
Swap:         5023          0       5023


Thanks,
Dan.
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Re: OT: cached memory

2012-06-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 13, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Dan Letkeman wrote:
 I understand the concept, as I have read many documents like that.  I
 am more interested in a real world example of how much free memory for
 caching is recommended for an average server.

The OS likes to keep a few megabytes of prezeroed pages handy for
emergency purposes, but otherwise, free memory is wasted memory.

One can infer that more memory would help system performance if
you are using more than a minor amount of swap, or if you see
significant amounts of paging/swapping in vmstat or similar...

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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