Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <7610864823c0d04d89342623a3adc9de1b022...@hopple.countryday.net>, "Sp ain, Dr. Jeffry A." writes: > > And now, as July 1 has passed and July 9 approaches, can you share a > > summary of what you found? Thanks. > > -- > > Offlist mail to this address is discarded unless > > "/d

RE: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-07-04 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
> And now, as July 1 has passed and July 9 approaches, can you share a > summary of what you found? Thanks. > -- > Offlist mail to this address is discarded unless > "/dev/rob0" or "not-spam" is in Subject: header On June 10, our zone countryday.net running on a bind 9.8.0 server began a

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-07-04 Thread /dev/rob0
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:54:15PM +, Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. wrote: > Tony Finch: > > What does `rndc sign ` do? > > Thanks, Tony. I have never run rndc sign, as the zone is configured > with auto-dnssec maintain. Before intervening in this manner, I > would like to gain a greater understandin

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Mark Andrews
The only thing I would change is making the deletion happen sig-validity-interval after the inactivation of the key. The idea is to have a gradual replacement of signatures as they normally fall due for re-signing. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHO

RE: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
Thanks, Phil. The document I used to set up the rotation schedules is "Good Practices Guide for Deploying DNSSEC" at http://www.enisa.europa.eu/act/res/technologies/tech/gpgdnssec. It recommends a two-week interval between ZSK inactivation and deletion. I will carefully study the IETF draft bel

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/17/2011 09:35 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: In which case you're going to have a serious problems I think. You can't delete a DNSKEY which has any extant RRSIGs until $MAX_TTL *after* those RRSIGs finally disappear. There's an RFC describing the key rotation schedules you must use in a lot of de

RE: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
> What does `rndc sign ` do? Thanks, Tony. I have never run rndc sign, as the zone is configured with auto-dnssec maintain. Before intervening in this manner, I would like to gain a greater understanding of what is going on. Thanks. Jeff. ___ Please vi

RE: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
Thanks, Phil. > How big is the zone, and how did you sign it originally? If you used "rndc > sign", then there will be little jitter in the RRSIG so they'll all tend to > roll over together. >For most of our zones, I signed them manually using dnssec-signzone and tuning >the jitter for a consta

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/17/2011 09:25 PM, Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. wrote: Our zone has 115 records, not counting DNSSEC-related records. I originally signed it by specifying the zone file and key directory along with "auto-dnssec maintain" in the configuration file. Looking at all the RRSIGs, they expire for the most

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Phil Mayers
On 17/06/11 15:13, Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. wrote: As of today (6/17/2011), RRSIG records for key 2750 are present for every RRset in the zone. The only RRSIG record for key 33722 is for the SOA RRset. See http://dnsviz.net/d/countryday.net/dnssec/. As I understand the process, based on the dates in

Re: DNSSEC key rollover failure

2011-06-17 Thread Tony Finch
Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. wrote: > > I'm sure I could solve this by removing all of the DNSSEC data and > resigning the zone, but would prefer not to do this except as a last > resort. If anyone has troubleshooting suggestions or other insights, I > would be grateful for those. Thanks. What does `rndc