Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-25 Thread G.W. Haywood via bind-users
Hi there, On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, Grant Taylor wrote: On 10/24/2018 06:15 AM, G.W. Haywood via bind-users wrote: A server on a non-standard port is often neglected.? Its security may be less well maintained than one that is intentionally public. Why and how do you make that correlation?

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Dave Warren
On 2018-10-24 07:24, Timothy Metzinger wrote: There's no security in obscurity.  Automated port scanners will sweep your system in a couple of seconds. There is *limited* security in obscurity but it's a valid layer. Obviously insufficient as an only layer... As a trivial example, I get

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 10/24/2018 07:24 AM, Timothy Metzinger wrote: There's no security in obscurity. Obscurity by itself is not security. Obscurity can be one many layers of security. Automated port scanners will sweep your system in a couple of seconds. Yes, automated scanners can scan all the ports on a

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 10/24/2018 06:15 AM, G.W. Haywood via bind-users wrote: A server on a non-standard port is often neglected.  Its security may be less well maintained than one that is intentionally public. Why and how do you make that correlation? Are you implying that some people think that because

RE: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread John W. Blue
econds. > > Tim Metzinger > > From: bind-users on behalf of G.W. > Haywood via bind-users Sent: Wednesday, > October 24, 2018 12:15:10 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Question about visibility > > Hi there, > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Hardy,

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Paul Kosinski
zinger > > From: bind-users on behalf of G.W. > Haywood via bind-users Sent: Wednesday, > October 24, 2018 12:15:10 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Question about visibility > > Hi there, > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Hardy, Andrew wrote: > > > F

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Timothy Metzinger
There's no security in obscurity. Automated port scanners will sweep your system in a couple of seconds. Tim Metzinger From: bind-users on behalf of G.W. Haywood via bind-users Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:15:10 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Question about visibility

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread G.W. Haywood via bind-users
Hi there, On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Hardy, Andrew wrote: Further to the original post, as well as not creating a DNS record and "possibly" adding robot.txt with appropriate content, as discussed, I presume that if I run the http server on a personally selected unprivileged port then it is very

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-24 Thread Hardy, Andrew
Further to the original post, as well as not creating a DNS record and "possibly" adding robot.txt with appropriate content, as discussed, I presume that if I run the http server on a personally selected unprivileged port then it is very "unlikely" the site pages will be indexed/discovered/etc

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-21 Thread N6ghost
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:39:55 -0400 Barry Margolin wrote: > In article , > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > On 10/11/2018 03:21 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: > > > Em 11/10/18 16:13, Barry Margolin escreveu: > > >> > > >> If you accidentally, or someone else intentionally, create a > > >> link

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 10/11/2018 03:21 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: > > Em 11/10/18 16:13, Barry Margolin escreveu: > >> > >> If you accidentally, or someone else intentionally, create a link to the > >> site that uses the IP and put it on a web page that Google can get to, >

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/11/2018 03:21 PM, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: Em 11/10/18 16:13, Barry Margolin escreveu: If you accidentally, or someone else intentionally, create a link to the site that uses the IP and put it on a web page that Google can get to, it will probably find the page.     robots.txt, on

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Em 11/10/18 16:13, Barry Margolin escreveu: If you accidentally, or someone else intentionally, create a link to the site that uses the IP and put it on a web page that Google can get to, it will probably find the page.     robots.txt, on your website root, is your friend. Simply deny web

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Admin Hardy wrote: > I realise this is not specifically a BIND/DNS question and a bit off > topic so please ignore if need be I realise people are often very busy. > > If you you have a website but the host IP you do not list with any > domain name in DNS, is it definite that

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Sten Carlsen
Please see below. On 11/10/2018 18.13, Hardy, Andrew wrote: > Ok I'm a bit confused.  I have some questions re last post, copied below: > > I have done this some time ago, I made sure that there was no link > from any pages to the new site,  > ** So the new site (in development) would have no

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Hardy, Andrew
Ok I'm a bit confused. I have some questions re last post, copied below: I have done this some time ago, I made sure that there was no link from any pages to the new site, ** So the new site (in development) would have no domain name mapped in DNS, so it seems unlikely that other sites and pages

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Sten Carlsen
I have done this some time ago, I made sure that there was no link from any pages to the new site, Google stayed away until somebody typed the address into the search field, then it was known. This is no guarantee of course as mentioned in other place but it worked for about 6 months. On

Re: Question about visibility

2018-10-11 Thread Warren Kumari
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:26 PM Admin Hardy wrote: > > I realise this is not specifically a BIND/DNS question and a bit off > topic so please ignore if need be I realise people are often very busy. > > If you you have a website but the host IP you do not list with any > domain name in DNS, is it