Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-10-31 Thread Ben Croswell
Actually a . is not part of a host name. It separates all the parts of FQDN. If you put one in a host name you have an undelegated subdomain as I stated before. -Ben Croswell On Oct 31, 2011 6:59 AM, Kristen Eisenberg kristen.eisenb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ben Croswell writes: In that case

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-10-31 Thread Kevin Darcy
On 10/31/2011 6:58 AM, Kristen Eisenberg wrote: Ben Croswell writes: In that case technically you are creating undelegated subdomains for each router. The dot is a delimiter and can't be part of a hostname. I was thinking you are wrong. Period is somewhat permitted in a hostname.

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-02-04 Thread John Wobus
To add to the story, I added a rule to our DNS administration system that we'll only allow hostnames that include at least one alphabetic. John On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:26 AM, John Wobus wrote: So 10.14.22.11 is a legal hostname, right? We had a recent experience where our DNS administration

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-02-04 Thread John Wobus
So 10.14.22.11 is a legal hostname, right? We had a recent experience where our DNS administration system allowed someone to insert in a CNAME record that resembled this: www.example.com. CNAME 10.14.22.11. A fascinating thing about this is that my computer/browser could take me to

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-02-01 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:40:51AM +0800, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote: Joseph S D Yao writes: The labels must follow the rules for ARPANET host names. They must start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior characters only letters, digits, and hyphen. There

RE: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread Vyto Grigaliunas
... Vyto -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+vyto=fnal@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind- users-bounces+vyto=fnal@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:14 PM To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org Subject: Re: what's a valid domain name

Re: RE: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Croswell
In that case technically you are creating undelegated subdomains for each router. The dot is a delimiter and can't be part of a hostname. -Ben Croswell On Jan 31, 2011 11:19 AM, Vyto Grigaliunas v...@fnal.gov wrote: ___ bind-users mailing list

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread Kevin Darcy
@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind- users-bounces+vyto=fnal@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 4:14 PM To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org Subject: Re: what's a valid domain name? In articlemailman.1586.1296424051.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Vytautas Grigaliunasv

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread pyh
Ben Croswell writes: In that case technically you are creating undelegated subdomains for each router. The dot is a delimiter and can't be part of a hostname. I was thinking you are wrong. Period is somewhat permitted in a hostname. From RFC 952 A name (Net, Host, Gateway, or

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1593.1296489025.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Vyto Grigaliunas v...@fnal.gov wrote: Although we're moving away from it, we found it useful for naming router interfaces, i.e. te1-2.routername.company.com, without having to create a separate sub-domain for each router. I

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-31 Thread Ben Croswell
The rfc you quote clearly states when used as a delimiter of a domain as I stated. -Ben Croswell On Jan 31, 2011 8:58 PM, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote: Ben Croswell writes: In that case technically you are creating undelegated subdomains for each router. The dot is a delimiter and can't be

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread pyh
From RFC 1123 One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a letter or a digit. Host software MUST support this more liberal syntax. p...@mail.nsbeta.info writes: Joseph S D Yao writes:

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1583.1296410997.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote: Correct, the requirement to start with a letter was removed ages ago. Witness 3com.com, which may have been the first. Yes, I'm pretty sure they were the impetus for the change,

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Vytautas Grigaliunas
3:34 pm Subject: Re: what's a valid domain name? To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org In article mailman.1583.1296410997.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote: Correct, the requirement to start with a letter was removed ages ago. Witness 3com.com

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1586.1296424051.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Vytautas Grigaliunas v...@fnal.gov wrote: What is the status of dotted hostnames - i.e. a period in the hostname portion of a domain name ? At one point they were allowed, I believe ? What is the latest official RFC ? I

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jan 30, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Vytautas Grigaliunas wrote: What is the status of dotted hostnames - i.e. a period in the hostname portion of a domain name ? At one point they were allowed, I believe ? What is the latest official RFC ? Periods, or dots, act as dividers in a domain name,

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-29 Thread Joseph S D Yao
As noted before, RFC 1035 set some specifications. But there were a number of clarifications and changes, notably RFC 1123 and RFC 2181. So, Pyh, your quote is not quite correct today. The first part never was - it only refers to second-level domains. The second part is correct for hostnames

Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-28 Thread pyh
Barry Margolin writes: In article mailman.1559.1296265826.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote: I googled and found this: It's on the Internet, so it must be true. :) * A domain name can be up to 63 characters long plus a dot plus the characters used to