Re: Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Timothe Litt
On 09-May-14 14:53, Alan Clegg wrote:
> I do, but I don't have "early access", so other than a brief "yep, it
> works", I can't get it into the README.  8-)
I'm glad that you make that effort. 

 I was responding to Jeremy's solicitation for suggestions on what
should be done more officially/thoroughly.   (Including routine builds
during development.)

Including ARM - native and cross-compiled - would support parts of the
community that don't get much attention (nor make much noise.)   
Embedded and cross-architecture compilers.

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On 09-May-14 14:53, Alan Clegg wrote:
> On 5/9/14, 2:06 PM, Timothe Litt wrote:
>>> If you have a suggestion for an important or popular OS version I should 
>>> add to our build farm, please let me know why.
>> I have one suggestion:  get a Raspberry PI and build/run on it (the
>> usual OS is Debian - 'Raspbian', but people run a variety of others.)
> I do, but I don't have "early access", so other than a brief "yep, it
> works", I can't get it into the README.  8-)
>
>
> AlanC
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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Alan Clegg
On 5/9/14, 2:06 PM, Timothe Litt wrote:
>> If you have a suggestion for an important or popular OS version I should 
>> add to our build farm, please let me know why.
> I have one suggestion:  get a Raspberry PI and build/run on it (the
> usual OS is Debian - 'Raspbian', but people run a variety of others.)

I do, but I don't have "early access", so other than a brief "yep, it
works", I can't get it into the README.  8-)


AlanC



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Re: Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Timothe Litt
> If you have a suggestion for an important or popular OS version I should 
> add to our build farm, please let me know why.
I have one suggestion:  get a Raspberry PI and build/run on it (the
usual OS is Debian - 'Raspbian', but people run a variety of others.)

Why:  I don't run bind on RPI, but I do run bind on similar embedded ARM
systems. 

The RPI is cheap (functional system with a HDD for ~$120 US), it's
ARM-based, and it's disk and memory limited. 

Besides all the scale-up machines (zillions of zones, many GB of memory
& disk) that you hear about, you do have scale-down customers. 

ARM-based systems are built native compile, and cross-compiled
(typically from x86).  So for a very small investment, you could
validate ARM, cross-compilation and small-memory environments.  (Yes, I
know you do some in-family cross-compiles for Sun, but x86-ARM
guarantees that compile-time checks - especially in configure - don't
work unless they're validated.  Well, *nothing* works unless it's
validated, but this in particular!) 

I'm glad to see that big-endian is represented (by HPUX) - many embedded
systems oriented toward network servers run big-endian to avoid
byte-swapping.

Why embedded systems?  Well, for large home/small office environments,
one can often squeeze bind (and dhcp & ntp) into a (jailbroken) router
or network storage box.  More than the cost of the box, there's the
maintenance issue - or lack of one.  These tend to run themselves.  And
they don't use much power, so a fairly inexpensive UPS will keep router,
modem, phone up for many hours. 

I ported bind to optware many years ago for this.

And no, I'm not suggesting that bind should be run on your favorite
smartphone...

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> Currently, some of the systems that we automatically build and run 
> various tests on include:
>
> FreeBSD 4.11 i386
> FreeBSD 6.3 i386
> FreeBSD 8.4 i386
> FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT i386
> Fedora 18 Linux 3.8.1-201.fc18.x86_64 x86_64 
> Fedora 19 Linux 3.11.6-200.fc19.x86_64 x86_64 
> HPUX B11.11 HPPA2.0w (HP 9000/800)
> MacOSX 10.6.6 Darwin 10.8.0 x86_64
> NetBSD 5.2 i386
> NetBSD 6.0 i386
> NetBSD 6.0.2 amd64
> Solaris 10 SunOS 5.10 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V240
> Solaris 10 SunOS 5.10 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2
> Solaris 11 SunOS 5.11 i86pc i386
> Ubuntu 13.10 Linux 3.11.0-15-generic x86_64
>
> The developers also use a variety of other systems like FreeBSD 
> 9.1-RELEASE-p4 amd64, Mac OS 10.8.4 and 10.8.5, Ubuntu Linux 13.04, 
> Fedora 19 Linux, NetBSD 6, and others, but they may have newer versions 
> than these.  There are also some Windows build systems with VS2005, 
> VS2008, VS2010express, VS2010, and VS2012 (and maybe others).
>
> I was also doing automated builds on OpenBSD, Debian, and Ubuntu LTS, 
> but need to replace the server. Also our AIX machine crashed.
>
> If you have a suggestion for an important or popular OS version I should 
> add to our build farm, please let me know why. Thanks
>




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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Edward DeLargy
Thank you all for your quick response I do appreciate it!!

Regards,
Ed



On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha  wrote:

> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Tony Finch  wrote:
> >
> > Edward DeLargy  wrote:
> >
> > > I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX
> >
> > The README says:
> >
> > Building
> >
> > BIND 9 currently requires a UNIX system with an ANSI C compiler,
> > basic POSIX support, and a 64 bit integer type.
> >
> > We've had successful builds and tests on the following systems:
> ...
> > Fedora Core 6
> ...
> > Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10
>
> Wow. Fedora core 6 and Ubuntu 7.04? I wonder if anybody is actually
> still using those. Makes you wonder just how often the README was
> updated :)
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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Currently, some of the systems that we automatically build and run 
various tests on include:

FreeBSD 4.11 i386
FreeBSD 6.3 i386
FreeBSD 8.4 i386
FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT i386
Fedora 18 Linux 3.8.1-201.fc18.x86_64 x86_64 
Fedora 19 Linux 3.11.6-200.fc19.x86_64 x86_64 
HPUX B11.11 HPPA2.0w (HP 9000/800)
MacOSX 10.6.6 Darwin 10.8.0 x86_64
NetBSD 5.2 i386
NetBSD 6.0 i386
NetBSD 6.0.2 amd64
Solaris 10 SunOS 5.10 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V240
Solaris 10 SunOS 5.10 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2
Solaris 11 SunOS 5.11 i86pc i386
Ubuntu 13.10 Linux 3.11.0-15-generic x86_64

The developers also use a variety of other systems like FreeBSD 
9.1-RELEASE-p4 amd64, Mac OS 10.8.4 and 10.8.5, Ubuntu Linux 13.04, 
Fedora 19 Linux, NetBSD 6, and others, but they may have newer versions 
than these.  There are also some Windows build systems with VS2005, 
VS2008, VS2010express, VS2010, and VS2012 (and maybe others).

I was also doing automated builds on OpenBSD, Debian, and Ubuntu LTS, 
but need to replace the server. Also our AIX machine crashed.

If you have a suggestion for an important or popular OS version I should 
add to our build farm, please let me know why. Thanks
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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Edward DeLargy  wrote:
> I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX



On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Tony Finch  wrote:

The README says:



We've had successful builds and tests on the following systems:

...

Fedora Core 6

...

Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10


On 09.05.14 17:48, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

Wow. Fedora core 6 and Ubuntu 7.04? I wonder if anybody is actually
still using those. Makes you wonder just how often the README was
updated :)


yes, there are many people who will only understand when "and later" will be
added...

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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread eddelargy
Thank you! I figured that but given some of the oddities of six wasn't sure.

Regards,
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Tony Finch  wrote:
> 
> Edward DeLargy  wrote:
> 
>> I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX
> 
> The README says:
> 
> Building
> 
>BIND 9 currently requires a UNIX system with an ANSI C compiler,
>basic POSIX support, and a 64 bit integer type.
> 
>We've had successful builds and tests on the following systems:
> 
>COMPAQ Tru64 UNIX 5.1B
>Fedora Core 6
>FreeBSD 4.10, 5.2.1, 6.2
>HP-UX 11.11
>Mac OS X 10.5
>NetBSD 3.x, 4.0-beta, 5.0-beta
>OpenBSD 3.3 and up
>Solaris 8, 9, 9 (x86), 10
>Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10
>Windows XP/2003/2008
> 
>NOTE:  As of BIND 9.5.1, 9.4.3, and 9.3.6, older versions of
>Windows, including Windows NT and Windows 2000, are no longer
>supported.
> 
>We have recent reports from the user community that a supported
>version of BIND will build and run on the following systems:
> 
>AIX 4.3, 5L
>CentOS 4, 4.5, 5
>Darwin 9.0.0d1/ARM
>Debian 4, 5, 6
>Fedora Core 5, 7, 8
>FreeBSD 6, 7, 8
>HP-UX 11.23 PA
>MacOS X 10.5, 10.6, 10.7
>Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, 5, 6
>SCO OpenServer 5.0.6
>Slackware 9, 10
>SuSE 9, 10
> 
> Tony.
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RE: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Tedd Tracy TANAGER
I’ve been building bind on AIX for years with no problems. I’ve had successful 
builds of 9.9.5 with both GCC and XLC.

Tedd

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[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Edward DeLargy
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 2:40 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

Good Afternoon,
I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX 
with the binaries provided in the download the same you would compile in RHEL 
or SLES. I do understand that libraries have to be correct but want to be sure 
the BIND download works in AIX.

Regards,
Ed



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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Tony Finch  wrote:
>
> Edward DeLargy  wrote:
>
> > I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX
>
> The README says:
>
> Building
>
> BIND 9 currently requires a UNIX system with an ANSI C compiler,
> basic POSIX support, and a 64 bit integer type.
>
> We've had successful builds and tests on the following systems:
...
> Fedora Core 6
...
> Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10

Wow. Fedora core 6 and Ubuntu 7.04? I wonder if anybody is actually
still using those. Makes you wonder just how often the README was
updated :)

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Re: AIX and 9.9.5 compiling

2014-05-09 Thread Tony Finch
Edward DeLargy  wrote:

> I just want to verify that 9.9.5 can be compiled in AIX

The README says:

Building

BIND 9 currently requires a UNIX system with an ANSI C compiler,
basic POSIX support, and a 64 bit integer type.

We've had successful builds and tests on the following systems:

COMPAQ Tru64 UNIX 5.1B
Fedora Core 6
FreeBSD 4.10, 5.2.1, 6.2
HP-UX 11.11
Mac OS X 10.5
NetBSD 3.x, 4.0-beta, 5.0-beta
OpenBSD 3.3 and up
Solaris 8, 9, 9 (x86), 10
Ubuntu 7.04, 7.10
Windows XP/2003/2008

NOTE:  As of BIND 9.5.1, 9.4.3, and 9.3.6, older versions of
Windows, including Windows NT and Windows 2000, are no longer
supported.

We have recent reports from the user community that a supported
version of BIND will build and run on the following systems:

AIX 4.3, 5L
CentOS 4, 4.5, 5
Darwin 9.0.0d1/ARM
Debian 4, 5, 6
Fedora Core 5, 7, 8
FreeBSD 6, 7, 8
HP-UX 11.23 PA
MacOS X 10.5, 10.6, 10.7
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4, 5, 6
SCO OpenServer 5.0.6
Slackware 9, 10
SuSE 9, 10

Tony.
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