Secondary Master

2012-05-11 Thread Manson, John
I found this article about setting up a secondary master.
This may be useful as we are bringing up a disaster recovery site.
The author explains that the zone type should be 'slave'' so it can receive db 
updates from the normal master.
Seems like that makes it a slave instead of a master for that zone?
We are also looking at the app rsync for db transfers so we will have mirrored 
masters, IP traffic separated by routers.
Thanks

https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html

John Manson
CAO/HIR/NI/Data-Communications
U.S. House of Representatives
Desk: 202-226-4244
john.man...@mail.house.gov


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Re: Secondary Master

2012-05-11 Thread WBrown
John  wrote on 05/11/2012 11:05:58 AM:

 I found this article about setting up a secondary master.
 This may be useful as we are bringing up a disaster recovery site.
 The author explains that the zone type should be ?slave?? so it can 
 receive db updates from the normal master.
 Seems like that makes it a slave instead of a master for that zone?
 We are also looking at the app rsync for db transfers so we will 
 have mirrored masters, IP traffic separated by routers.
 Thanks
 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html

What they describe is a typical slave server.  I wonder if they are 
misusing the term master for authoritative.

They are correct that more than one server is needed in order to maintain 
the availability of the domain should the Primary become unavailable. 
It's a good idea to make sure that your DNS servers are physically 
separated so a network failure does not block access to all of them. 

I would just let zone transfers take care of keeping things in sync 
instead of using rsync and a bunch of custom procedures to so it. 



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Re: Secondary Master

2012-05-11 Thread John Wingenbach


The concept of a secondary master is sound.  It basically provides for 
a healthy means of handling the situation where your primary master is 
unusable.  To enable and support a primary/backup dns master, the backup 
master is initially setup as noted as a slave server.  Any other slave 
servers for the primary master also need to be pre-configured to treat 
the secondary master as a master.  Thus, when the primary master is 
unavailable, the task is simply to reconfigure the secondary master as a 
true master and to temporarily break the link between the primary and 
secondary.  Upon recovery, you would have to convert the original 
primary master as a slave to get updates from the secondary and then 
re-enable it as the primary.


This is a relatively simply explanation of what can be done to support a 
primary/secondary master.  Obviously, there's a lot of work to support 
the flipping of masters which requires intelligent scripting to make it 
failure resistant.


It would be nice if bind natively supported the concept.  However, until 
such time, manual / scripting means are needed.


On 05/11/2012 11:27 AM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote:

John  wrote on 05/11/2012 11:05:58 AM:


I found this article about setting up a secondary master.
This may be useful as we are bringing up a disaster recovery site.
The author explains that the zone type should be ?slave?? so it can
receive db updates from the normal master.
Seems like that makes it a slave instead of a master for that zone?
We are also looking at the app rsync for db transfers so we will
have mirrored masters, IP traffic separated by routers.
Thanks

https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html

What they describe is a typical slave server.  I wonder if they are
misusing the term master for authoritative.

They are correct that more than one server is needed in order to maintain
the availability of the domain should the Primary become unavailable.
It's a good idea to make sure that your DNS servers are physically
separated so a network failure does not block access to all of them.

I would just let zone transfers take care of keeping things in sync
instead of using rsync and a bunch of custom procedures to so it.



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Re: Secondary Master

2012-05-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.780.1336757913.63724.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 John Wingenbach b...@wingenbach.org wrote:

 The concept of a secondary master is sound.  It basically provides for 
 a healthy means of handling the situation where your primary master is 
 unusable.

That's true, but the sample configurations in the OP's link did not show 
this.  They clearly used the term master to refer to authoritative 
servers, and secondary in the obsolete sense of slave servers.  So in 
the section where it showed how to configure a secondary master, all 
it showed was how to configure an ordinary slave -- nothing to do with 
turning that slave into a replacement master.

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Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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