Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-23 Thread @lbutlr
On 22 May 2019, at 23:31, Evan Hunt wrote: > One possible reason is distribution of trust anchors for a private corporate > domain. Aren't there better days to do this? Or at least other ways to do this? Anything to make bind leaner and meaner and with fewer LOCs seems like a plus to me.

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-22 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:41:05PM +0100, Jim Reid wrote: > ISC said DLV would go away once the root got signed. It's long outlived > its usefulness (DLV that is, not ISC). The root first got signed ~10 > years ago. That's more than enough time to make other arrangements and > have an orderly

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-22 Thread Tony Finch
Matthijs Mekking wrote: > > The BIND 9 development team has been discussing whether we should remove > the DLV code from the BIND 9 source. DLV as it currently works is not useful and it's a lot of complexity to carry around. However, with some tweaks it might be made useful. On the

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-22 Thread Jim Reid
> On 21 May 2019, at 16:00, Hugo Salgado-Hernández wrote: > > One important thing is that the "islands of security" concept > may be necessary in different places (companies? communities?) > and the DLV technique is not limited to the root. For the same > reason I consider that Bind's support

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-21 Thread Hugo Salgado-Hernández
Last year I was involved in a project to allow the signing of domains in the second level of a country, when the TLD has signed yet. It's a reality in certain regions. I get it that the idea is to put pressure on the TLD, but this institution was the largest ISP in the country and considered that

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-21 Thread Warren Kumari
At this point I think DLV is actively dangerous -- I'm not sure if it "easy" to remove the code without too much risk, but an initial start would be to make it impossible^whard to enable it (and initially log an error message for people who already have it configured...). W On Tue, May 21, 2019

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-21 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Hi Grant, On 5/20/19 11:44 PM, Grant Taylor via bind-users wrote: On 5/20/19 4:34 AM, Matthijs Mekking wrote: * It will make the code much easier to maintain, which is beneficial for users too since that will mean in general less bugs, easier to find bugs, and easier to extend it with new

Re: Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-20 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 5/20/19 4:34 AM, Matthijs Mekking wrote: * It will make the code much easier to maintain, which is beneficial for users too since that will mean in general less bugs, easier to find bugs, and easier to extend it with new features. Drive by 2¢ comment: Is the existing DLV code causing a

Should we remove the DLV code?

2019-05-20 Thread Matthijs Mekking
Dear BIND 9 users, The BIND 9 development team has been discussing whether we should remove the DLV code from the BIND 9 source. Reasons for doing this: * The zone dlv.isc.org has been decommissioned some time ago. * It will make the code much easier to maintain, which is beneficial