Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
- Original Message - > > In our case it would be impossible for the University's public web > presence and the AD domain controllers to be the same machines. It > is > conceivable that we could do some magic in load balancers to divide > traffic appropriately, but I'd rather not do that

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Dave Sparro wrote: > On 4/6/2013 12:46 AM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: > > So, up until a couple years ago...our webmail address had always been, and > > only "webmail.ksu.edu". But, under the new directionit has to work as > > "webmail.ksu.edu", "www.webmail.ksu.edu", >

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Doug Barton wrote: > On 04/08/2013 06:54 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: > > In article , > > Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 04/05/2013 11:53 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: > >> > >> | It is funny you should mention that... my questions about using views > >> | to create a situation where one si

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Phil Mayers wrote: > On 04/08/2013 06:59 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: > > > Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they'd be right if > > and only if the webserver they're adding the A record for happens to > > also be the AD server. > > In principle that's correct. > >

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , "Barry S. Finkel" wrote: > On 4/8/2013 9:10 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: > > In article , Phil > > Mayers wrote: > >> >Sam Wilson wrote: > >> > > >>> > >[adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] > >>> > > > >> > > >> >If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-24 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Phil Mayers wrote: > On 08/04/13 14:46, Sam Wilson wrote: > > In article , > > Phil Mayers wrote: > > > >> Sam Wilson wrote: > >> > >>> [adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] > >>> > >> > >> If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an A record will > >> definitely affect

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-12 Thread Dave Sparro
On 4/6/2013 12:46 AM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. wrote: So, up until a couple years ago...our webmail address had always been, and only "webmail.ksu.edu". But, under the new directionit has to work as "webmail.ksu.edu", "www.webmail.ksu.edu", "webmail.k-state.edu","www.webmail.k-state.edu".

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
In article , wbr...@e1b.org wrote: And then there's theses folks: http://no-www.org/ On 04/08/2013 06:42 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: Is co-opting high-level name space for a single protocol a modern-day landgrab? On 08.04.13 20:58, Doug Barton wrote: Is holding on to the antiquated notion that

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-09 Thread Phil Mayers
On 04/08/2013 06:59 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they'd be right if and only if the webserver they're adding the A record for happens to also be the AD server. In principle that's correct. In practice, running a publicly accessible webserver on

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/08/2013 06:42 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: In article , wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for cam.ac.uk to duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "all the publicity material sent out by the nominator [for an award for the web site] gave the UR

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/08/2013 06:54 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: In article , Doug Barton wrote: On 04/05/2013 11:53 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: | It is funny you should mention that... my questions about using views | to create a situation where one single record is different happens to | be exactly for this rea

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Dave Warren
On 2013-04-08 11:10, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: It would seem to me there is some other way around this, either by redirecting traffic to the AD servers or some careful combination of local host names or something else. In our case, the domain itself has barely any activity (and no client activity)

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5162e2a1.7000...@att.net>, "Barry S. Finkel" writes: > On 4/8/2013 9:10 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: > > In article , Phil > > Mayers wrote: > >> >Sam Wilson wrote: > >> > > >>> > >[adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] > >>> > > > >> > > >> >If your AD realm is also calle

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Novosielski, Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2013 10:16 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: > On 08/04/13 14:46, Sam Wilson wrote: >> In article >> , Phil >> Mayers wrote: >> >>> Sam Wilson wrote: >>> [adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] >>> >>> If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Novosielski, Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/08/2013 09:47 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: > In article , > Phil Mayers wrote: > >> Sam Wilson wrote: >> >>> [adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] >>> >> >> If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an A record >> will definitely affect t

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On 4/8/2013 9:10 AM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: In article , Phil Mayers wrote: >Sam Wilson wrote: > > >[adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] > > > >If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an A record will >definitely affect things. Which is exactly the opposite of wh

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Phil Mayers
On 08/04/13 14:46, Sam Wilson wrote: In article , Phil Mayers wrote: Sam Wilson wrote: [adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an A record will definitely affect things. Which is exactly the opposite of what our AD guys said, but not wi

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , wbr...@e1b.org wrote: > Warren Kumari wrote on 04/05/2013 06:48:08 PM: > > > > And then there's theses folks: > > > > > > http://no-www.org/ > > > > > > > Oh wow! > > > > Gee, thanks for that? > > And it's always fun when you tell someone to go to a URL that doesn't > includ

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Doug Barton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 04/05/2013 11:53 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: > > | It is funny you should mention that... my questions about using views > | to create a situation where one single record is different happens to > | be

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Phil Mayers wrote: > Sam Wilson wrote: > > > [adding an A record for ed.ac.uk.] > > > > If your AD realm is also called ed.ac.uk then adding an A record will > definitely affect things. Which is exactly the opposite of what our AD guys said, but not with such great conviction

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Dave Warren wrote: > On 2013-04-05 12:18, Sam Wilson wrote: > > We're currently prevaricating over putting in an A record for ed.ac.uk. > > Whilst my colleagues who manage active directory assure me that having > > an A record there - pointing at the content-managed web server that

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , wbr...@e1b.org wrote: > > >Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for cam.ac.uk to > > >duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "all the publicity > material > > >sent out by the nominator [for an award for the web site] gave the URL > > >as http://cam.ac.uk/ an

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-08 Thread WBrown
Warren Kumari wrote on 04/05/2013 06:48:08 PM: > > And then there's theses folks: > > > > http://no-www.org/ > > > > Oh wow! > > Gee, thanks for that? And it's always fun when you tell someone to go to a URL that doesn't include the W's and they want to type them in anyways, ie. chat.exam

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-06 Thread Novosielski, Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/2013 03:11 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 04/05/2013 11:53 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: > > | It is funny you should mention that... my questions about using > views | to create a situation where one single record is different > happens to | be

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-06 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/05/2013 11:53 PM, Novosielski, Ryan wrote: | It is funny you should mention that... my questions about using views | to create a situation where one single record is different happens to | be exactly for this reason. The Active Directory admi

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Novosielski, Ryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/2013 04:12 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > On 2013-04-05 12:18, Sam Wilson wrote: >> We're currently prevaricating over putting in an A record for >> ed.ac.uk. Whilst my colleagues who manage active directory assure >> me that having an A record ther

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Phil Mayers
Sam Wilson wrote: >In article , > Chris Thompson wrote: > >> On Apr 5 2013, John Wobus wrote: >> >> >> DNAME? >> > >> >Or SRV records. Surely browsers are adding support >> >in the next day or two? >> >> Come on, April 1 has been over for too long for this. >> >> Incidentally, we have just

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
- Original Message - > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: > > >>> Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for > >>> cam.ac.uk to > >>> duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "all the publicity > > material > >>> sent out by the nominator [for an awa

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: >>> Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for cam.ac.uk to >>> duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "all the publicity > material >>> sent out by the nominator [for an award for the web site] gave the URL >>> as http://ca

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Dave Warren
On 2013-04-05 12:18, Sam Wilson wrote: We're currently prevaricating over putting in an A record for ed.ac.uk. Whilst my colleagues who manage active directory assure me that having an A record there - pointing at the content-managed web server that has difficulty handling arbitrary URLs - won't

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread WBrown
> >Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for cam.ac.uk to > >duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "all the publicity material > >sent out by the nominator [for an award for the web site] gave the URL > >as http://cam.ac.uk/ and this has been retweeted around". > > Yes, sa

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Chris Thompson Date: Friday, April 5, 2013 3:10 PM To: Bind Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME >On Apr 5 2013, John Wobus wrote: > >>> DNAME? >> >>Or SRV records. Surely browsers are adding suppo

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Sam Wilson
In article , Chris Thompson wrote: > On Apr 5 2013, John Wobus wrote: > > >> DNAME? > > > >Or SRV records. Surely browsers are adding support > >in the next day or two? > > Come on, April 1 has been over for too long for this. > > Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for ca

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Chris Thompson
On Apr 5 2013, John Wobus wrote: DNAME? Or SRV records. Surely browsers are adding support in the next day or two? Come on, April 1 has been over for too long for this. Incidentally, we have just been asked for an A record for cam.ac.uk to duplicate www.cam.ac.uk because, and I quote, "al

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread John Wobus
DNAME? Or SRV records. Surely browsers are adding support in the next day or two? John ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/04/13 14:16, Warren Kumari wrote: DNAME? DNAME doesn't do it, because it directs a sub-tree, not the name itself. You'd need the DNAME in the parent zone, and if you can do that, you can just put two CNAMES (zone and *.zone). ___ Please vis

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 5, 2013, at 5:23 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: > On 04/05/2013 10:13 AM, Thomas Manson wrote: > >> @ IN CNAME somehost.com > > Correct. CNAMEs are mutually exclusive with other records (DNSSEC signatures > excepted) and zone apex requires SOA and NS. > > >> >> How can

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Thomas Manson
Ok thanks for this confirmation. I already build my zone file from a Database with a php-cgi script, what's painful is handling the changes for domains I don't manage directly ;) Thanks for your quick feedback ! Regards, Thomas. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: > The

Re: Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Phil Mayers
On 04/05/2013 10:13 AM, Thomas Manson wrote: @ IN CNAME somehost.com Correct. CNAMEs are mutually exclusive with other records (DNSSEC signatures excepted) and zone apex requires SOA and NS. How can I achive this configuration ? You will have to use an A record.

Simple question about zone and CNAME

2013-04-05 Thread Thomas Manson
Hi, I'd like use CNAME record on my zone. I'm able to have this config: for http://www.mysite.com www IN CNAME somehost.com but I can't do for http://mysite.com @ IN CNAME somehost.com How can I achive this configuration ? Is there another way to specify the address of http://mysite.com