Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from the local network, but outside I get recursion requested but not available. Our /24 reverse zones work fine, the server knows

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Phil Mayers
On 07/29/2010 08:58 AM, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from the local network, but outside I get recursion requested but not available. Our

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 11:29, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 07/29/2010 08:58 AM, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from the local network, but outside I get

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Phil Mayers
On 29/07/10 10:00, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: 29.7.2010 11:29, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 07/29/2010 08:58 AM, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 13:45, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 29/07/10 10:00, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: 29.7.2010 11:29, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 07/29/2010 08:58 AM, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from the local network, but outside I get recursion requested but

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Niobos
On 2010-07-29 09:58, Jukka Pakkanen wrote Recursion is only allowed for the local networks, but why the server thinks recursion is needed in the first place? Because it is: dig -x looks for 200.217.142.62.in-addr.arpa. Your server is not a master for this zone; instead it's master for

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200 is succeeds from the local network, but

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 14:26, Niobos kirjoitti: On 2010-07-29 09:58, Jukka Pakkanen wrote Recursion is only allowed for the local networks, but why the server thinks recursion is needed in the first place? Because it is: dig -x looks for 200.217.142.62.in-addr.arpa. Your server is not a master

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Phil Mayers
On 29/07/10 12:34, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: 29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig @ns1.qnet.fi -x 62.142.217.200

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 14:50, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 29/07/10 12:34, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: 29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4c516756.5060...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: 29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem with recursion. When doing a query like dig

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Sami Kerola
On 07/29/2010 01:38 PM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:38:20 +0300 From: Jukka Pakkanenjukka.pakka...@qnet.fi Subject: Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317 To:bind-users@lists.isc.org Message-ID:4c51682c.3080...@qnet.fi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4c516d09.7080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: 29.7.2010 14:50, Phil Mayers kirjoitti: On 29/07/10 12:34, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: 29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 15:10, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c516756.5060...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: 29.7.2010 14:23, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: In message4c5134af.2080...@qnet.fi, Jukka Pakkanen writes: Doing first time the RFC 2317 style subnet reverse DNS, and have a problem

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
network. 29.7.2010 15:10, Sami Kerola kirjoitti: On 07/29/2010 01:38 PM, bind-users-requ...@lists.isc.org wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:38:20 +0300 From: Jukka Pakkanenjukka.pakka...@qnet.fi Subject: Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317 To:bind-users@lists.isc.org Message-ID:4c51682c.3080

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 15:21, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: Yeah, this makes sense. But my question still is, what is wrong in our setup, !!! NOTHING Well, then everything is good and I can go to my vacation... hopefully the clients whose IP addresses

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 15:43, Jukka Pakkanen kirjoitti: Please everybody just forget the 62.142.220.0/24 network and 62.142.220.5 address, the problem is not about them. It was just to inform that our servers are doing regular /24 reverse DNS just fine. The problem is we are trying to set up and

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Mark Andrews
Sorry about using 5 instead of something from 128 to 255 in the examples. That said there is nothing wrong here. The rest of the world will get the correct answers without recursion being enabled on that server and it will NEVER be asked the question you were testing with in normal operation.

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 16:00, Mark Andrews kirjoitti: Sorry about using 5 instead of something from 128 to 255 in the examples. That said there is nothing wrong here. Now I can agree :) However earlier our servers only answered to the local queries about those IP addresses, started working during

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Niobos
On 2010-07-29 15:00, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Anyway we also have 62.142.217.64/27 IP network (you know what I mean) which should be delegated to our servers, but that still doesn't work. But it's probably a delegation problem. From my point of view, 62.142.217.64 is served by ns3.sci.fi (and its

Re: Subnet reverse delagation, RFC 2317

2010-07-29 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
29.7.2010 17:06, Niobos kirjoitti: On 2010-07-29 15:00, Jukka Pakkanen wrote: Anyway we also have 62.142.217.64/27 IP network (you know what I mean) which should be delegated to our servers, but that still doesn't work. But it's probably a delegation problem. From my point of view,