Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-02 Thread Niobos
On 2011-03-01 21:00, Torinthiel wrote:
> On 03/01/11 20:17, fakessh @ wrote:
> And about OVH - I don't know if it's related, but I've asked Polish OVH
> how about providing DNSSEC, as .pl is planned to be signed mid-year, and
> they've answered me they will probably be ready. This might, or might
> not be related to providing DNSSEC by other OVH branches and for other
> registries.

I asked this to OVH.fr somewhere around October 2010. They answered that
they were working on it and it would be available "soon".
I re-asked it mid Februari 2010 to OVH.nl. They answered that it's on
their roadmap but they don't have a timing yet... They only could
provide me with this forum link: http://forum.ovh.nl/showthread.php?t=963

Greets


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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread Torinthiel
On 03/01/11 21:52, fakessh @ wrote:
> as I now know what key DS uses. 

That would be the key with id 47103 in your case. The one that has SEP
flag, the one that only signs DNSKEY records and not others.
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread Mark Andrews

In message <1299012754.7.430.camel@localhost.localdomain>, "fakessh @" writ
es:
> as I now know what key DS uses. 
> 
> I logged into my account and I moved isc dlv record SHA1 DS, 
> and I thought to receive a new record or something like that. 
> 
> well no reply from the ISC is :
> A corresponding DNSKEY already exists for this record.

Because there are already DLV records for the key in the DLV.

;; ANSWER SECTION:
fakessh.eu.dlv.isc.org. 3529IN  DLV 47103 3 2 
68096942650C1DD89D5BE43A9EEA05BA9C20F09EDC55309F4F1CD348 4D8ED07B
fakessh.eu.dlv.isc.org. 3529IN  DLV 47103 3 1 
CFEA04C5B918359273D6BAC07AE7F2DF5225E357

And the zone itself validates (ad=1).

; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> fakessh.eu soa +adflag
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4080
;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;fakessh.eu.IN  SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
fakessh.eu. 38400   IN  SOA r13151.ovh.net. 
postmaster.fakessh.eu. 2011022802 10800 3600 604800 38400

;; Query time: 2521 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Mar  2 08:45:13 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89

> All comments are welcome to help me find a solution
> 
> nb : I publish on my blog a little article on dnssec 
> http://fakessh.eu/2011/02/16/faire-marcher-dnssec-sur-son-serveur/
> Le mardi 01 mars 2011 =C3=A0 21:00 +0100, Torinthiel a =C3=A9crit :
> > On 03/01/11 20:17, fakessh @ wrote:
> > 
> > > is the repeat isc dlv seems to accept the flag DS 
> > > in my case i have to a file dsset-fakessh.eu 
> > > but the file contains two keys DS and i don't know which to use
> > 
> > The DS you have are both for the same key, only one is SHA1 and other
> > SHA256. You could try any of them, but see below.
> > 
> > ISC DLV accepts keys, you have to create an account, add your zone and
> > keys for it. I remember having some trouble trying to add DS records,
> > but DNSKEY worked fine. Of course the zone has to be signed using that
> > key, and ISC asks you to add a TXT record at dlv.your.zone (or something
> > similar) to prove your ability to modify the zone.
> > The procedure is simple and well defined.
> > 
> > And about OVH - I don't know if it's related, but I've asked Polish OVH
> > how about providing DNSSEC, as .pl is planned to be signed mid-year, and
> > they've answered me they will probably be ready. This might, or might
> > not be related to providing DNSSEC by other OVH branches and for other
> > registries.
> > 
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread fakessh @
as I now know what key DS uses. 

I logged into my account and I moved isc dlv record SHA1 DS, 
and I thought to receive a new record or something like that. 

well no reply from the ISC is :
A corresponding DNSKEY already exists for this record.

All comments are welcome to help me find a solution

nb : I publish on my blog a little article on dnssec 
http://fakessh.eu/2011/02/16/faire-marcher-dnssec-sur-son-serveur/
Le mardi 01 mars 2011 à 21:00 +0100, Torinthiel a écrit :
> On 03/01/11 20:17, fakessh @ wrote:
> 
> > is the repeat isc dlv seems to accept the flag DS 
> > in my case i have to a file dsset-fakessh.eu 
> > but the file contains two keys DS and i don't know which to use
> 
> The DS you have are both for the same key, only one is SHA1 and other
> SHA256. You could try any of them, but see below.
> 
> ISC DLV accepts keys, you have to create an account, add your zone and
> keys for it. I remember having some trouble trying to add DS records,
> but DNSKEY worked fine. Of course the zone has to be signed using that
> key, and ISC asks you to add a TXT record at dlv.your.zone (or something
> similar) to prove your ability to modify the zone.
> The procedure is simple and well defined.
> 
> And about OVH - I don't know if it's related, but I've asked Polish OVH
> how about providing DNSSEC, as .pl is planned to be signed mid-year, and
> they've answered me they will probably be ready. This might, or might
> not be related to providing DNSSEC by other OVH branches and for other
> registries.
> 
> Torinthiel
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread Torinthiel
On 03/01/11 20:17, fakessh @ wrote:

> is the repeat isc dlv seems to accept the flag DS 
> in my case i have to a file dsset-fakessh.eu 
> but the file contains two keys DS and i don't know which to use

The DS you have are both for the same key, only one is SHA1 and other
SHA256. You could try any of them, but see below.

ISC DLV accepts keys, you have to create an account, add your zone and
keys for it. I remember having some trouble trying to add DS records,
but DNSKEY worked fine. Of course the zone has to be signed using that
key, and ISC asks you to add a TXT record at dlv.your.zone (or something
similar) to prove your ability to modify the zone.
The procedure is simple and well defined.

And about OVH - I don't know if it's related, but I've asked Polish OVH
how about providing DNSSEC, as .pl is planned to be signed mid-year, and
they've answered me they will probably be ready. This might, or might
not be related to providing DNSSEC by other OVH branches and for other
registries.

Torinthiel
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread fakessh @

Le mardi 01 mars 2011 à 09:34 +0100, Laurent Bauer a écrit :
> On 28/02/2011 23:35, fakessh @ wrote:
> >> This is not handled yet. The .FR zone has been signed since september 
> >> 2010, but submitting DS for child zones will be supported later this year.
> >> See http://operations.afnic.fr for more information.
> >>
> > thank you for taking the trouble to answer me. 
> > 
> > 
> > I therefore rest with my chain of security provided by isc dlv and wait
> > for the DS flag a chance to insert later. 
> > 
> > but I wonder one thing I'm not a registar I am a passionate individual,
> > how I'm going to do later for the flag for my DS  .eu domain and .fr? I
> > do not know and still do not understand how
> 
> You will have to ask your registrar to submit the DS to the parent zone,
> just as you have to ask your registrar 

my registrar OVH not implement dnssec for yet

> when you want to change the NS
> for your zone.

i use other dns secondary that does not come from ovh
use isc dlv

> If they are already implementing DNSSEC, ask them what you are supposed
> to provide (the KSK or the DS only) ; 

for the submission in isc dlv 
we have their key to submit and we get a new text record
it is easy to initiate


> I guess there must be a FAQ

not  FAQ to explicite  for implement a DS record

> somewhere on the control panel.

is the repeat isc dlv seems to accept the flag DS 
in my case i have to a file dsset-fakessh.eu 
but the file contains two keys DS and i don't know which to use

> Eurid is already ready for DS submission, so you will be able to
> complete the whole chain of trust for your .eu domain, if your registrar
> is DNSSEC ready.
> 
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-03-01 Thread Laurent Bauer
On 28/02/2011 23:35, fakessh @ wrote:
>> This is not handled yet. The .FR zone has been signed since september 
>> 2010, but submitting DS for child zones will be supported later this year.
>> See http://operations.afnic.fr for more information.
>>
> thank you for taking the trouble to answer me. 
> 
> 
> I therefore rest with my chain of security provided by isc dlv and wait
> for the DS flag a chance to insert later. 
> 
> but I wonder one thing I'm not a registar I am a passionate individual,
> how I'm going to do later for the flag for my DS  .eu domain and .fr? I
> do not know and still do not understand how

You will have to ask your registrar to submit the DS to the parent zone,
just as you have to ask your registrar when you want to change the NS
for your zone.
If they are already implementing DNSSEC, ask them what you are supposed
to provide (the KSK or the DS only) ; I guess there must be a FAQ
somewhere on the control panel.
Eurid is already ready for DS submission, so you will be able to
complete the whole chain of trust for your .eu domain, if your registrar
is DNSSEC ready.

Laurent
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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-02-28 Thread fakessh @

Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 20:14 +0100, Laurent Bauer a écrit :
> Eivind Olsen wrote:
> > 
> > Well, I see a few different errors for that domain:
> > 
> > I don't see any DS records for your domain when I query the fr. 
>  > nameservers. I don't know how it's handled in that TLD but I guess
>  > you somehow need to tell your registrar about your KSK, so they
> > can put in the correct DS record.
> 
> This is not handled yet. The .FR zone has been signed since september 
> 2010, but submitting DS for child zones will be supported later this year.
> See http://operations.afnic.fr for more information.
> 
thank you for taking the trouble to answer me. 


I therefore rest with my chain of security provided by isc dlv and wait
for the DS flag a chance to insert later. 

but I wonder one thing I'm not a registar I am a passionate individual,
how I'm going to do later for the flag for my DS  .eu domain and .fr? I
do not know and still do not understand how



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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-02-28 Thread Laurent Bauer

Eivind Olsen wrote:


Well, I see a few different errors for that domain:

I don't see any DS records for your domain when I query the fr. 

> nameservers. I don't know how it's handled in that TLD but I guess
> you somehow need to tell your registrar about your KSK, so they

can put in the correct DS record.


This is not handled yet. The .FR zone has been signed since september 
2010, but submitting DS for child zones will be supported later this year.

See http://operations.afnic.fr for more information.


The delegation of your domain looks a bit odd, the fr. nameservers claims you 
have:
- ns0.xname.org
- ns1.xname.org
- ns1.novacrea.fr
- r13151.ovh.net
...but if I query any of these, I'm told there's also ns2.xname.org


This NS record was most certainly added in the child zone after the 
domain registration, as the registry performs a zonecheck before adding 
/ updating nameservers. Among other things, the nameserver list in each 
zone must match the one you want to use at the registry level, or else 
the NS update is not processed.



At the moment, ns1.xname.org gives an older version of the zone, with a serial number 
"2011021401"


That is another requirement for the zonecheck, the serial number must 
match in all zones.


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Re: inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-02-28 Thread Eivind Olsen
Den 28. feb. 2011 kl. 17.46 skrev fakessh @:
> for example the test shows me some time
> http://dnssec-debugger.verisignlabs.com/nicolaspichot.fr the results are
> not consistent with my expectations


Well, I see a few different errors for that domain:

I don't see any DS records for your domain when I query the fr. nameservers. I 
don't know how it's handled in that TLD but I guess you somehow need to tell 
your registrar about your KSK, so they can put in the correct DS record.

The delegation of your domain looks a bit odd, the fr. nameservers claims you 
have:
- ns0.xname.org
- ns1.xname.org
- ns1.novacrea.fr
- r13151.ovh.net
...but if I query any of these, I'm told there's also ns2.xname.org

At the moment, ns1.xname.org gives an older version of the zone, with a serial 
number "2011021401"

Check the list of errors on http://dnsviz.net/d/nicolaspichot.fr/dnssec/ 
especially about missing key 12961.

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inconsistency dnssec debuguers response and writing conseil for new areas zone

2011-02-28 Thread fakessh @
hello bind network

I just installed bind 9.7.3 version and I just noticed that the areas
have been modified by the rpm ( i think ). 
they seem to have greater respect for the standards was the previous
version uses version 9.7.0-6.p2 depositing rpm centos testing

they are reading that you advise me to learn how to write a zone file

I possess three domains signs with dnssec. and I noticed an
inconsistency in the responses of debugguers it probably comes from my
server secondary side I do not control completely the configuration but
for example the test shows me some time
http://dnssec-debugger.verisignlabs.com/nicolaspichot.fr the results are
not consistent with my expectations


thanks
many return are welcome
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