Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Andrews
Allowed glue is addresses records of nameserver whose names are below the delegating zones. Absolutely, 100% required, when the nameserver's name is within or below the delegated zone and sibling glue which are within or below another another zone delegated from the parent zone. The latter are o

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-20 Thread Casey Deccio
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Michael Sinatra wrote: > On 06/18/11 19:22, Casey Deccio wrote: > >> In particular, if the >> name of the name server is itself in the subzone, we could be faced with >> the situation where the NS RRs tell us that in order to learn a name >> server's address, we s

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-19 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 06/18/11 19:22, Casey Deccio wrote: In particular, if the name of the name server is itself in the subzone, we could be faced with the situation where the NS RRs tell us that in order to learn a name server's address, we should contact the server using the address we wish to learn. To fix th

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Casey Deccio
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Michael Sinatra wrote: >  Consider: > > baz.org.  NS ns1.dns.podunk.edu. > baz.org.  NS ns2.dns.podunk.edu. > > and > > dns.podunk.edu. NS ns1.dns.podunk.edu. > dns.podunk.edu. NS ns2.dns.podunk.edu. > > In theory, you "should" only need glue in podunk.edu, but pod

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Jorg W.
2011/6/19 David Miller : > > In the particular case of the OP - example.net. has name servers under > example.com. > > To make lookups for records under example.net., resolvers walk the tree from > "." to "net." and get NS records - ns1.example.com. and ns2.example.com. > > You can't insert glue re

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Jorg W.
2011/6/19 Michael Sinatra : > On 06/18/11 15:23, Chris Thompson wrote: >> > >> Of course, at the root zone level, *all* NS records need either >> "required glue" or "sibling glue", because every single one of them >> is somewhere under the root zone. At least, until the aliens contact >> us and we

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 06/18/11 15:23, Chris Thompson wrote: On Jun 18 2011, Michael Sinatra wrote: In theory, you can insert glue records anywhere above the zone in question. See RFC 2181, section 5.4.1. As an example, glue for the servers adns1.berkeley.edu and adns2.berkeley.edu exist in the root zone. For "

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Chris Thompson
On Jun 18 2011, Michael Sinatra wrote: In theory, you can insert glue records anywhere above the zone in question. See RFC 2181, section 5.4.1. As an example, glue for the servers adns1.berkeley.edu and adns2.berkeley.edu exist in the root zone. For "fj", "hk", and "xn--j6w193g". These ar

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 06/18/11 10:26, David Miller wrote: All domains, at every level, have to configure their records such that the tree can be walked from root to their domain. Follow the "."s. For: this.long.chain.example.com. com. must be delegated by . example.com. must be delegated by com. chain.example.c

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread David Miller
On 6/18/2011 12:24 PM, Lyle Giese wrote: On 06/18/11 09:30, Jorg W. wrote: Greetings, given my domain name is example.net, and my NS servers for example.net are: ns1.example.com ns2.example.com But, example.com itself's NS servers are the registrator's (for example, godaddy's). Under this

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Sven Eschenberg
On Sat, June 18, 2011 18:34, Lyle Giese wrote: > On 06/18/11 10:21, Sven Eschenberg wrote: >> That is weird. >> >> When I use my own NSes under my own domain, I need to reg them to .org >> NSes, when I use my registrars NSes I don't. >> >> There does not seem to be any technical reason for your sce

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Sven Eschenberg
On Sat, June 18, 2011 18:24, Lyle Giese wrote: > On 06/18/11 09:30, Jorg W. wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> given my domain name is example.net, and my NS servers for example.net >> are: >> >> ns1.example.com >> ns2.example.com >> >> But, example.com itself's NS servers are the registrator's (for >> exa

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Lyle Giese
On 06/18/11 10:21, Sven Eschenberg wrote: That is weird. When I use my own NSes under my own domain, I need to reg them to .org NSes, when I use my registrars NSes I don't. There does not seem to be any technical reason for your scenario (imho). Regards -Sven P.S.: A direct glue of course co

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Lyle Giese
On 06/18/11 09:30, Jorg W. wrote: Greetings, given my domain name is example.net, and my NS servers for example.net are: ns1.example.com ns2.example.com But, example.com itself's NS servers are the registrator's (for example, godaddy's). Under this case, I don't need any glue for ns[1-2].exam

Re: nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Sven Eschenberg
That is weird. When I use my own NSes under my own domain, I need to reg them to .org NSes, when I use my registrars NSes I don't. There does not seem to be any technical reason for your scenario (imho). Regards -Sven P.S.: A direct glue of course could reduce the lookup path length and save r

nameserver registration

2011-06-18 Thread Jorg W.
Greetings, given my domain name is example.net, and my NS servers for example.net are: ns1.example.com ns2.example.com But, example.com itself's NS servers are the registrator's (for example, godaddy's). Under this case, I don't need any glue for ns[1-2].example.com. But why I still need to reg