Re: signature expiration

2013-04-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
If nothing changes, only the SOA serial will be incremented on resign.

The signatures don't 'have' to be renewed every 30 days, you can resign
as often as you want / need.

regards

~Carlos

On 4/11/13 9:14 AM, hugo hugoo wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> Can anyone tell me why signatures in dnssec mut be renewed every 30 days?
> What are the modifications made on a zone with a resign?
>  
> Thanks in advance for the clarifications.
>  
> Hugo,
> 
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Re: signature expiration

2013-04-11 Thread Tony Finch
Alan Clegg  wrote:
>
> I use dynamic zones and never concern myself with expired signatures.
> You can also use inline signing to remove this "hassle".

Yes!

> Better solution:  Sign them more often.  Why not sign them twice a day?
> I personally don't think that extending the signature validity period is
> a good idea.

I agree with the principle. There is a caveat though (Alan knows this but
it should probably be made explicit): If you reduce sig-validity-interval
you need to understand how it interacts with zone expiry on slave servers.
The SOA expiry time should be less than the second sig-validity-interval
parameter.

The first sig-validity-interval parameter is the total signature lifetime
(30 days by default); the second parameter is the time allowed between
signature replacement and expiry (7.5 days by default). So by default
signatures are replaced after 22.5 days.

If there is an outage, you want your slave servers to expire the zone
before the signatures become stale. You don't want your secondaries
serving bogus data. So the default sig-validity-interval works nicely with
a 7 day zone expiry timer. (dig +multiline soa is your friend.)

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Re: signature expiration

2013-04-11 Thread Alan Clegg

On Apr 11, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Noel Butler  wrote:

> Sign them for longer, I typically use 90 days
> 
> On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 12:14 +, hugo hugoo wrote:
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Can anyone tell me why signatures in dnssec mut be renewed every 30 days?
>> What are the modifications made on a zone with a resign?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for the clarifications.

Better solution:  Sign them more often.  Why not sign them twice a day?

I use dynamic zones and never concern myself with expired signatures.
You can also use inline signing to remove this "hassle".

I personally don't think that extending the signature validity period is a good 
idea.

AlanC
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Re: signature expiration

2013-04-11 Thread Tony Finch
hugo hugoo  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me why signatures in dnssec mut be renewed every 30
> days?

The limited lifetime of the signatures reduces your exposure to a replay
attack. After the signature has expired an attacker cannot fool a victim
by giving them the stale data.

> What are the modifications made on a zone with a resign?

The signatures are regenerated with updated expiry times.

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Re: signature expiration

2013-04-11 Thread Noel Butler
Sign them for longer, I typically use 90 days

On Thu, 2013-04-11 at 12:14 +, hugo hugoo wrote:
> Hello,
>  
> Can anyone tell me why signatures in dnssec mut be renewed every 30
> days?
> What are the modifications made on a zone with a resign?
>  
> Thanks in advance for the clarifications.
>  
> Hugo,
> 
> 
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2013-04-11 Thread hugo hugoo
Hello, Can anyone tell me why signatures in dnssec mut be renewed every 30 
days?What are the modifications made on a zone with a resign? Thanks in advance 
for the clarifications. Hugo,  ___
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