Re: [IANA #1147230] Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
I meant d.f.ip6.arpa rather than f.d.in-addr.arpa. > On 24 Jul 2019, at 11:18 pm, Mark Andrews wrote: > > There is f.d.in-addr.arpa which is what this ticket is about and > ipv4only.arpa which Stuart Cheshire is writing a update for and for which > there is a seperate ticket. Both are DNSSEC

Re: [IANA #1147230] Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-24 Thread Mark Andrews
There is f.d.in-addr.arpa which is what this ticket is about and ipv4only.arpa which Stuart Cheshire is writing a update for and for which there is a seperate ticket. Both are DNSSEC related. Both cause operational problems. Both involve having unsigned zones for the relevant names. For

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-14 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 14 Jul 2019, at 1:18 am, Jay Ford wrote: > > I'm still confused about why named looks further up the tree than > c.0.d.7.5.7.c.2.a.9.d.f.ip6.arpa which it holds authoritatively via > master/slave zone type. That seems like incorrect behavior. The cache doesn’t know about zones. The

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-13 Thread Jay Ford
I'm still confused about why named looks further up the tree than c.0.d.7.5.7.c.2.a.9.d.f.ip6.arpa which it holds authoritatively via master/slave zone type. That seems like incorrect behavior. Is this something I can fix or work around?

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-12 Thread Mark Andrews
gt;> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: >>>> . 10796 IN SOA a.root-servers.net. >>>> nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2019071101 1800 900 604800 86400 >>>> >>>> ;; Query time: 0 msec >>>> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) >>

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-12 Thread Mark Andrews
I suspect this will be negative response synthesis. The cache has learnt that d.f.ip6.arpa doesn’t exist in ip6.arpa and when the name in question is looked up the covering NSEC is returned which covers all of ULA space. If I’m right querying for DS d.f.ip6.arpa will load the cache

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-12 Thread Jay Ford
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019, Mark Andrews wrote: On 12 Jul 2019, at 1:00 pm, Mark Andrews wrote: On 12 Jul 2019, at 11:12 am, Jay Ford wrote: I have a similar problem with zones for IPv6 ULA space. I'm running BIND 9.14.3. I had hoped that validate-except would do the trick, such as:

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
>>>> dig @192.168.220.20 foo.local ns +norec >>>> >>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.5-Ubuntu <<>> @192.168.220.20 foo.local ns +norec >>>> ; (1 server found) >>>> ;; global options: +cmd >>>> ;; Go

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread m3047
Almost my point. It comes to my attention the hard way, that MDNS is enabled by default or by accident in some Linux distros. Check /etc/nsswitch.conf. Let us know what you find, and thanks a lot! Longer answer: it depends on whether MDNS is in nsswitch, and what the ordering is. -- Fred

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
>>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23 >>> ;; flags: qr aa ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 5 >>> >>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: >>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4000 >>> ;; QUESTION SECTION: >>> ;foo.loc

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread Jay Ford
there is nat involved here, due to address space collision, and while this obviously means the practical functionality of this is questionable, i was expecting that with a static-stub zone, the query itself would at least function. i see these messages in the logs: 11-Jul-2019 16:08:51.406 la

Re: static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread Mark Andrews
A 192.168.0.20 > 02.foo.local. 3600IN A 192.168.0.21 > a2.foo.local. 3600IN A 10.201.11.8 > a1.foo.local. 1200IN A 10.201.10.119 > > ;; Query time: 82 msec > ;; SERVER: 192.168.220.20#53(192.168.220.20) > ;; WHEN: Thu Jul 11 16:35

static stub zone not working as expected

2019-07-11 Thread btb via bind-users
39 EDT 2019 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 214 additionally unfortunate, there is nat involved here, due to address space collision, and while this obviously means the practical functionality of this is questionable, i was expecting that with a static-stub zone, the query itself would at least

Re: Issues with Stub Zone

2019-05-12 Thread Cathy Almond
Echoing Chris Buxton - you may be better served by using static-stub rather than stub. Explanation here: https://bugs.isc.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=45734 Cathy ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from

Re: Issues with Stub Zone

2019-05-08 Thread Ben Lavender
in a record in /etc/hosts. Also the stub zone file updates correctly. I have tested static-stubs and they work as expected but stubs don't when recursion is enabled on the BIND server. Ben On 08/05/2019 17:02, Chris Buxton wrote: Remembering that a stub zone is a cache hint, more information

Re: Issues with Stub Zone

2019-05-08 Thread Chris Buxton
Remembering that a stub zone is a cache hint, more information is needed. o What do the two "master" DNS servers say when asked for the SOA record of 'benlavender.co.uk'? o Are there A or records in the Additional section? If so, can the indicated IP addresses be reache

Issues with Stub Zone

2019-05-07 Thread Ben Lavender
Hi, I've been trying to configure a stub zone using both BIND 9.8x and 9.9x for some split-brain internal DNS. The problem I have is that any client that requests the NS or SOA records for this zone gets SERVFAIL. The BIND server populates the /var/named/slaves/benlavender.co.uk.DB file

RE: Stub Zone Behavior?

2016-08-15 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
possible unforeseen consequences) from iterative to recursive resolution. http://jpmens.net/2011/01/25/binds-new-static-stub-zone-type/ https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2012-September/088719.html If you only have a *few*, relatively-static set of unreachables, you might consider lis

Stub Zone Behavior?

2016-08-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
Have a resolver at a branch office with a view containing a stub zone as follows: zone "domain.com." IN { type stub; masters { 10.216.11.6; 10.58.4.1; 10.50.4.32; }; file "stub/domain.com"; forwarders {}; }; Other notes: - "

Re: SERVFAIL on stub zone (WAS: dig @server foobar +trace +recurse)

2015-07-15 Thread Tony Finch
Anne Bennett a...@encs.concordia.ca wrote: It all looks just peachy, but when I issued: dig @localhost -t ns concordia.ca. it gave me a SERVFAIL. I couldn't find anything abnormal in the syslogs. I can't for the life of my figure out why it's unhappy. How can I debug this? Try rndc

Re: SERVFAIL on stub zone (WAS: dig @server foobar +trace +recurse)

2015-07-15 Thread Anne Bennett
SERVFAIL] Midnight insight: glue records??? The two listed NS are below the zone cut. How can a stub zone work in those circumstances, if at all? I think I'm onto something; with the above stub zone for concordia.ca (which transfers information listing two NS records as ns1.concordia.ca and ns2

SERVFAIL on stub zone (WAS: dig @server foobar +trace +recurse)

2015-07-14 Thread Anne Bennett
Tony Finch d...@dotat.at enlightens me thus: The difference between stub and static-stub is that stub works like the root zone hints, i.e. the servers in the zone override the ones that you configure for a stub zone, whereas the servers you configure for a static-stub zone override

Re: SERVFAIL on stub zone (WAS: dig @server foobar +trace +recurse)

2015-07-14 Thread Anne Bennett
. -- [but querying it for NS gives SERVFAIL] Midnight insight: glue records??? The two listed NS are below the zone cut. How can a stub zone work in those circumstances, if at all? Anne. -- Ms. Anne Bennett, Senior Sysadmin, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal

Re: order of masters IP addresses in slave/stub zone?

2015-02-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1698.1424913638.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org, Hillary Nelson nelsonhilla...@gmail.com wrote: I was asked to add some backup master IP addresses to a slave zone file for some HCP system, but those IPs not active and can't do zone transfer until system failover. My

order of masters IP addresses in slave/stub zone?

2015-02-25 Thread Hillary Nelson
I was asked to add some backup master IP addresses to a slave zone file for some HCP system, but those IPs not active and can't do zone transfer until system failover. My question is, does the order of the master ip list matters, so named always tries first ones until it fails tries next one? Or

Re: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2013-02-21 Thread Sowmya Manjanatha
Well, I have a stub zone on Windows 2008 server set-up to use two different BIND server as its list of IPs to use as masters. In the DNS manager on Windows, you can always right click on the zone and select Transfer zone from Master. With Wireshark on Windows, I have found that this triggers

Re: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2013-02-21 Thread WBrown
From: Sowmya Manjanatha sowmy...@gmail.com Well, I have a stub zone on Windows 2008 server set-up to use two different BIND server as its list of IPs to use as masters. In the DNS manager on Windows, you can always right click on the zone and select Transfer zone from Master

Re: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2013-02-21 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Sowmya Manjanatha sowmy...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:11 PM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring Well, I have a stub zone on Windows 2008 server set-up to use

BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2013-02-20 Thread Sowmya Manjanatha
I am having the same issue and saw a couple of questions but didn't see any resolutions. Any one have any luck with this. Thanks. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list

does a stub zone require an IXFR?

2012-09-20 Thread M. Meadows
Attempting to determine if a stub zone requires any kind of zone transfer. Reading through online doc I find mixed opinions. Here's one: … Stub-Zones do receive their information by just querying DNS-Servers instead of requesting a Zone-Transfer. You can even add Stub-Zones for Zones where

Re: does a stub zone require an IXFR?

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Buxton
On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:39 AM, M. Meadows wrote: Attempting to determine if a stub zone requires any kind of zone transfer. Reading through online doc I find mixed opinions. No zone transfer. Just an SOA query, an NS query, and (if necessary) A and record queries for name server names

RE: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2011-10-20 Thread Will lists
@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+listswill=gmail@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Machin Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:48 PM To: bind-us...@isc.org Subject: BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring Hi We have a Linux server running bind 9.2.4 and dhcpd in a ddns

BIND master , Windows 2008 stub zone not transferring

2011-10-19 Thread Gregory Machin
none of the zones will transfer to the stub zones on the Windows servers. From the windows servers I can use nslookup to do zone transfers with out any issues. But in DNS mangers , on the stub zone , when I click one reload, or Transfer from Master, or Transfer new copy from zone Master then result

Re: stub zone

2011-07-27 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Feng He wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Feng He wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ju wusuo juwu...@yahoo.com wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 1311623708.59385.yahoomail...@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com, ju wusuo writes: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC cons= iders stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true?=A0 No. There are no plans to remove support for stub zones

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Feng He
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ju wusuo juwu...@yahoo.com wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true? ___ Hi, what's the use of stub zone? I

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread ju wusuo
Thanks Mark .. I think that probably is the misunderstanding of the delegation usage part. From: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org To: ju wusuo juwu...@yahoo.com Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-us...@isc.org Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:57 PM Subject: Re: stub zone

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Feng He wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ju wusuo juwu...@yahoo.com wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread ju wusuo
26, 2011 1:33 AM Subject: Re: stub zone On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ju wusuo lt;juwu...@yahoo.comgt; wrote: gt; Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC gt; considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true? gt

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:55 PM, ju wusuo wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true? I've heard that rumor from my customers, too. But I haven't heard anything from ISC about not supporting

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Cathy Almond
On 25/07/11 20:55, ju wusuo wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true? I think we may have confused some people in the past about support for this because of what's written in the ARM about

Re: stub zone

2011-07-26 Thread Feng He
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Feng He wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:55 AM, ju wusuo juwu...@yahoo.com wrote: Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support

stub zone

2011-07-25 Thread ju wusuo
Would like to use the BIND stub zone function, however, heard that ISC considers stopping support to stub zone in the future, is that true? ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-18 Thread Marc Haber
tunnel is built. Does a stub zone use the same mechanism, or will it immediately query for the stub's NS records when a query comes in and the NS records are no longer cached? To answer your specific question, the non-intuitive[1] forwarders { }; is needed to inhibit forwarding which has presumably

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 01:36:10PM +0100, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: A stub zone tells BIND to load SOA and NS records from its masters {}. (forwarders {} is, I belive, both useless and incorrect here.) From that point onwards, your BIND will use the data in the stub to recursively find answers

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-18 Thread Hauke Lampe
On 18.03.2011 10:17, Marc Haber wrote: Which it doesn't in the forward setup, it just immediately returns NXDOMAIN. Do you include zones.rfc1918 in your configuration? What SOA RR does the NXDOMAIN return? | zone 0.10.in-addr.arpa { | type forward; | forwarders { 10.0.0.2; }; | }; | |

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 09:16:13PM -0400, Kevin Darcy wrote: As a general rule, use type forward zones only if you have some connectivity issue you need to work around, e.g. trying to resolve Internet names from behind a restrictive firewall. On 18.03.11 10:15, Marc Haber wrote: So, a

Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
{ }; }; zone 101.1.10.in-addr.arpa { type forward; forwarders { 10.1.101.6; }; forward only; }; The stub zone works; the forward zone doesn't. When I ask my local bind for 6.101.1.10.in-addr.arpa (PTR), I get an immediate NXDOMAIN without bind even trying to talk

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-14 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
Marc, A stub zone tells BIND to load SOA and NS records from its masters {}. (forwarders {} is, I belive, both useless and incorrect here.) From that point onwards, your BIND will use the data in the stub to recursively find answers to queries for that zone. The forwarder on the other hand

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-14 Thread Mark Andrews
; masters { 10.1.2.11; 10.1.2.45; }; file stub/2.1.10.in-addr.arpa; forwarders { }; }; zone 101.1.10.in-addr.arpa { type forward; forwarders { 10.1.101.6; }; forward only; }; The stub zone works; the forward zone doesn't. When I ask my local bind

Re: Stub zone vs forward zone

2011-03-14 Thread Tony Finch
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: A stub zone tells BIND to load SOA and NS records from its masters {}. (forwarders {} is, I belive, both useless and incorrect here.) From that point onwards, your BIND will use the data in the stub to recursively find answers to queries for that zone

stub zone and dnssec processing fails?

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, I've been trying to configure bind to use a stub zone, for which I have keys configured. When I do this, I see a ServFail, with the logs pointing to: 01-Oct-2009 11:00:03.053 lame-servers: info: not insecure resolving 'xelerance.ca/DNSKEY/IN': 193.110.157.135#53 When I disable

Re: stub zone and dnssec processing fails?

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Mark Andrews wrote: zone ca. IN { type stub; masters { 192.228.22.190; 192.228.22.189; }; }; To make the test signed ca work you need to replace the NS RRet with the names of the nameservers that serve the signed CA zone. At the moment you end up with

Re: stub zone

2009-03-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 02:06:18PM +0100, squid proxy squidcac...@gmail.com wrote a message of 13 lines which said: Howto create a stub zone instead of slave zone on BIND 9.3.4-P1.1? Read the documentation ? https://www.isc.org/software/bind/documentation/arm95 zone zone_name [class

stub zone

2009-03-05 Thread squid proxy
hi At the moment our internal DNS servers are authorative for the main domain via slave zones, which will be generating unnecessary replication traffic. Howto create a stub zone instead of slave zone on BIND 9.3.4-P1.1? What are differences between slave and stub zone? Piotr