RE: SRV records etc

2015-02-11 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
This is, of course, *not* what SRV records were intended for. In my experience, 
most of these proof of domain ownership idiots will also offer TXT records as 
an alternative.

Speaking of SRV misuse/misapplication, Microsoft's use of SRV records as a 
generic domain-remapping mechanism for Exchange Autodiscover (so people can 
cheap out on their SSL certs, usually not realizing that, in the absence of 
ubiquitous DNSSEC, they are downgrading their security by doing so, TNSTAAFL) 
falls into the same category. Semantically, PTR records could have served the 
same function more compactly/efficiently, but would have the same 
security-downgrade issue. (Despite misconceptions to the contrary, the use of 
PTR records is *not* limited to reverse mappings).

- Kevin

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[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Lightner, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: SRV records etc

SRV definitely still required for some applications.   Some cloud based 
application providers have you add them to verify you own the domain to which 
they're tying their services so you don't use them to hijack other people's 
domains.

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[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin
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Subject: Re: SRV records etc

In article mailman.1603.1423618610.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:

 HINFO is getting pretty rare. The security issues are pretty obvious 
 and its advantages are rather limited.

I thought they were deprecated ages ago, but I can't find anything official 
about that.

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Re: SRV records etc

2015-02-11 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1608.1423662027.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Lightner, Jeff jlight...@dsservices.com wrote:

 SRV definitely still required for some applications.   Some cloud based 
 application providers have you add them to verify you own the domain to which 
 they're tying their services so you don't use them to hijack other people's 
 domains.

I was talking about HINFO, not SRV.

 
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 [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:14 PM
 To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: SRV records etc
 
 In article mailman.1603.1423618610.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
  Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  HINFO is getting pretty rare. The security issues are pretty obvious 
  and its advantages are rather limited.
 
 I thought they were deprecated ages ago, but I can't find anything official 
 about that.
 
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RE: SRV records etc

2015-02-11 Thread Lightner, Jeff
SRV definitely still required for some applications.   Some cloud based 
application providers have you add them to verify you own the domain to which 
they're tying their services so you don't use them to hijack other people's 
domains.

-Original Message-
From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Barry Margolin
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:14 PM
To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org
Subject: Re: SRV records etc

In article mailman.1603.1423618610.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:

 HINFO is getting pretty rare. The security issues are pretty obvious 
 and its advantages are rather limited.

I thought they were deprecated ages ago, but I can't find anything official 
about that.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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Re: SRV records etc

2015-02-10 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Mike Hoskins (michoski) micho...@cisco.com
 wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: John j...@klam.ca
 Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:29 PM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: SRV records etc

 How useful are SRV records? Are they worth installing? What are their
 benefits, and pitfalls?
 Similar question about HINFO.

 In my limited experience, this is a question about requirements...  In the
 past I had to support applications which made extensive use of SRV for
 service discovery.  It was a requirement, it worked well in testing, so we
 considered it useful and happily supported it.  :-)


SRV records are almost essential for some applications. I can't imagine not
supporting them.

HINFO is getting pretty rare. The security issues are pretty obvious and
its advantages are rather limited.
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Re: SRV records etc

2015-02-10 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1603.1423618610.26362.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:

 HINFO is getting pretty rare. The security issues are pretty obvious and
 its advantages are rather limited.

I thought they were deprecated ages ago, but I can't find anything 
official about that.

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Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA
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Re: SRV records etc

2015-02-10 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message-
From: John j...@klam.ca
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:29 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: SRV records etc

How useful are SRV records? Are they worth installing? What are their
benefits, and pitfalls?
Similar question about HINFO.

In my limited experience, this is a question about requirements...  In the
past I had to support applications which made extensive use of SRV for
service discovery.  It was a requirement, it worked well in testing, so we
considered it useful and happily supported it.  :-)

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